John LEA/LEIGH/LEE of Tyldesley - a Tailor

[OzJane]

I'm seeking assistance in establishing birth and apprenticeship records for John LEA (spellings vary).

The verifiable facts that I have state that he married in Cheadle, Cheshire, to Elizabeth Lawton in 1828.  From 1829 until 1839, their children were born in Tyldesley, baptised in Leigh and the baptism records indicate that John was a Tailor.

I am fairly confident that he died in Tyldesley in 1839, the burial record states that he was 44. John is not recorded on the 1841 Census and Elizabeth remarried in 1847.
If the 1839 death is the correct John Leigh, then birth year would be around 1795.
   
I’ve checked Ancestry, Family Search, Find my Past, Lancashire OPC, Cheshire Parish Register Data Base, Free Reg and just about anything else I can find.

The marriage record has his parish as Cheadle.

I am trying establish his birth details and his apprenticeship details. For apprentice records, I’ve checked Ancestry which seem to be the National Archives records. Still haven’t had the chance to check the apprenticeship records on FindMyPast at the library.
There is a possible baptism in Leigh in 1795 – to Thomas and Martha (the name Martha was given to their 3rd daughter).

My thinking is that he may well have been born in Leigh (given he started working there immediately after his marriage) and then served an apprenticeship in Cheshire where he met his wife. Comments/thoughts please?  I’m beginning to think I’m clutching at straws.

I have not yet been able to find an apprenticeship record online (I’m in Sydney) that could fit.  Perhaps someone could point me to a source I’ve not yet found.  If he served 7 years as an apprentice, that would put a record around 1803, given his marriage in 1828 and possible birth in 1795.
Or maybe after puzzling over this for years, I just accept that there is nowhere else to go.  I’ve put this on the Lancashire Board but happy to be re-directed.

Thanks for your thoughts in advance.
Jane

[garstonite]

The following 2 posts are for other members to read in case they have anything to add 
the marriage Parish record
http://cprdb.csc.liv.ac.uk/
database
marriage
page 9
Elizabeth Lawton to John Lea
click on circle - then on oblong
married 13th july 1828 in Cheadle Parish
witness - Mary Lawton -Henry Smith - married by Matt Dunn
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 DATABASE

Full marriage record listing - on 29 Mar 2018 at 07:09:04 BST





Field Name

Field Value


KEYCODE
CHDLM02502501.00332

PADVER
chdlM2501.0

PARISH_CODE
CHDL

TAGGED
0

DATED
8280713

GROOM_FNAME
JOHN

GROOM_SNAME
LEA

GROOM_RESID
CHEAP

GROOM_SIGN
S

BANNS
BS

BRIDE_FNAME
ELIZABETH

BRIDE_SNAME
LAWTON

BRIDE_RESID
CHEAP

BRIDE_SIGN
S

W_FNAME_1
MARY

W_SNAME_1
*LATOWN

W_FNAME_2
HENRY

W_SNAME_2
SMITH

C_FNAME
MATT

C_SNAME
DUNN

INF_SNAME_1
*LAWTON

[garstonite]

http://www.lan-opc.org.uk/Search/indexp.html

not baptised in Leigh

Baptism: 5 Sep 1830 St George, Tyldesley, Lancashire, England
 Ann Lea - Daughter of John Lea & Elizabeth
     Abode: Tildesley
     Occupation: Tailor
     Baptised by: J. Robson.....................
     Register: Baptisms 1825 - 1859, Page 33, Entry 261
     Source: LDS Film 1885664
...
Baptism: 25 Dec 1831 St George, Tyldesley, Lancashire, England
 William Lawton Lea - Son of John Lea & Elizh.
     Abode: Tildesley
     Occupation: Tailor
     Baptised by: J. Robson
     Register: Baptisms 1825 - 1859, Page 48, Entry 384
     Source: LDS Film 1885664

...Baptism: 25 Aug 1833 St George, Tyldesley, Lancashire, England
 Sarah Lawton Lea - Daughter of John Lea & Elizh.
     Abode: Tildesley
     Occupation: Tailor
     Baptised by: J. Robson
     Register: Baptisms 1825 - 1859, Page 62, Entry 496
     Source: LDS Film 1885664

...
Baptism: 11 Jul 1835 St George, Tyldesley, Lancashire, England
 Joseph Lawton Lea - Son of John Lea & Elizh.
     Abode: Tyldesley
     Occupation: Tailor
     Baptised by: J. Robson
     Register: Baptisms 1825 - 1859, Page 75, Entry 594
     Source: LDS Film 1885664

...
Baptism: 16 Jul 1837 St George, Tyldesley, Lancashire, England
 Martha Lea - Daughter of John Lea & Elizabeth
     Abode: Tyldesley
     Occupation: Tailor
     Baptised by: J. Robson
     Register: Baptisms 1825 - 1859, Page 95, Entry 759
     Source: LDS Film 1885664
 
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This is more than likely your John Lea
Burial: 3 Mar 1839 St George, Tyldesley, Lancashire, England
 John Lea -
     Age: 44 yrs
     Abode: Tyldesley
     Register: Burials 1825 - 1855, Page 95, Entry 756
 

[OzJane]

Thanks for taking the time to put up the full records, Garstonite, much appreciated. Also pleased for a vote for the 1839 burial.
Cheers
Jane

[RyanUK]

John Leigh
Baptism Date: 6 Sep 1795
Parish: Leigh, Lancashire, England
Father's Name: Thomas Leigh
Mother's Name: Martha Leigh
Register Type: Bishops Transcripts
Reference Number: Drm 2/114a

• One possible baptism speculation based on having a daughter named Martha.

There are other similar dated baptisms in the same parish so it's a guess.
I would build the trees for speculated parents and look for similarities in names and occupation for clues if your really stuck.

[amondg]

Not relevant just notes
Pigot's Directory 1834
John Lea, Shuttle Street, Tyldesley, Tailor

[OzJane]

Thanks amondg, all information helps. And confirms John in Tyldesley
Cheers
Jane