Peagum family

[Sinann]

Only Emily born in Limerick 1886/87 I can see is Emily Palrang but her father isn't John or a mariner.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1867/03492/2283326.pdf

[Sinann]

Sadly no Emily Peagum on that register in 1866 or 1867, that I can see (although the writing got difficult to read towards the end). No Peagum/Pegum even.

You were led to Cahernarry by these records, I take it? http://titheapplotmentbooks.nationalarchives.ie/search/tab/results.jsp?surname=Peagum&firstname=&county=&parish=&townland=&search=Search

I wouldn't restrict the search to 1886 and 1887, ages on later records can be out by a few years.
There is a Mary/Maria I can't quite remember baptised in 1860 but her father isn't John, not sure what it is possibly Frances.

I can't find any evidence of John any where, I did think perhaps she was misheard and had said George not John and perhaps she was Mary Emily or similar but had dropped the Mary but than George or none of the other men I've seen have anything to do with the sea.
Her mother could have been unmarried and Emily simply made up the father's name, that often happened but there is still no sign of a birth or baptism that I can see.

[alexreg]

I see a workhouse baptism for Joseph Peagum 1887 to Emily Peagum no father named
http://www.liverpoolhistoryprojects.co.uk/liverpoolrcbaptisms/baptisms.php

Right, that's Joseph Casas, who had the same name as his father, though he was born out of wedlock. Likewise Wilhelmina, though they both used their father's surname. This baptism must be an exception.

[alexreg]

Thanks for looking into this more, Sinann. I'm not sure what to make of this all. The Roots-Ireland search (I'm not a member, but can still see how many results are returned) gives zero results for Emily Peagum, 4 for John Peagum (1 baptism, 2 marriage, 1 census), and 71 Peagum results in total. Do you (or does anyone else) happen to have a subscription, so can check for me? I'm not sure how else to proceed, other than trawling through a lot of records for various parishes across a range of years, which would take me a long long time, especially given how difficult I find it to read the handwriting. :-)

[Sinann]

I don't have a subscription either but if you play around with the year on the free search (+/-5) you will see the baptism does appear until 1881 so it probably this John born 1886
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1886/02586/1955838.pdf
The Census is 1901 so is the same John
1901
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Limerick/Ballycummin/Dromdarrig/1495347/
1911
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Limerick/Glin/Caheragh/633750/

[Sinann]

The marriages don't appear until 1884 I only see one in Limerick in 1889
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1889/10737/5915164.pdf
It may be the same marriage showing in two different record sets.

[gaffy]

One possibility, no matter how consistent any sources are, is that her age was understated, it wouldn't take much to push her pre civil registration.

[heywood]

Hell everyone,

I searched and searched the other day to no avail - sorry if this information has already been published.

Re the mariner connection.

1891 2909 / 28. (As transcribed)
1ct, 3 house, Litherland Alley

James Mills 28 yrs Seas Mariner
Catherine Mills 27 yrs
Ganelia Mills 27 yrs b Ireland
Joseph Casas 3 yrs
Williamson Casas 2 yrs

‘ Ganelia’ could read as Emilia
The females are dittoed under Mills
‘Williamson’ reads more as ‘Willihamia’

If the above is Emily, birth is abt 1864
I wonder if the ‘mariner’ father was made up - living amongst mariners

1901 Emily is 38 yrs born abt 1863
1911 Emily is 40 yrs born abt 1870 - most likely to be wrong.

There is a death in Prescot 1922
Emily Casas born abt 1869

[Sinann]

The daughter Willihamia and Emily's marriage to Joseph are on that site dathai posted.

Interesting she is living with a family associated with mariners, I think you could be correct that is where the occupation for her father comes from.