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Re: Marriage of Lewis Bradford GILES and Grace
« Reply #27 on: Saturday 21 April 18 12:31 BST (UK) »
Thanks for this information, family said there was some 'mystery" unspoken about so maybe this is it!
Hall -Devon,
Atkinson-Gateshead Durham.
Weir - Swansea
Sumner - Warwickshire
Morrall - Warwickshire
Hill -Cornwall, Australia and NZ
Penhallurick - Cornwall and Australia
McNally - Ireland and UK
Tooze - Devon

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Re: Marriage of Lewis Bradford GILES and Grace
« Reply #28 on: Sunday 22 April 18 07:27 BST (UK) »
I have searched everywhere I can think of for a first marriage for Elizabeth Perrin born Hall - anyone offer further help on this please?
Parents Robert Hall and mother is Hester (unknown)
Hall -Devon,
Atkinson-Gateshead Durham.
Weir - Swansea
Sumner - Warwickshire
Morrall - Warwickshire
Hill -Cornwall, Australia and NZ
Penhallurick - Cornwall and Australia
McNally - Ireland and UK
Tooze - Devon

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Re: Marriage of Lewis Bradford GILES and Grace
« Reply #29 on: Sunday 22 April 18 15:32 BST (UK) »
Her age is out but everything else adds up?

Marriage;
25 Dec 1871, Lyncombe and Widcombe, Somerset
Elizabeth HALL, Full Age, Father ROBERT Hall (deceased), Cloth Dreser
William Henry PERRIN, Full Age, Bachelor, Gardener, Father HENRY Perrin, Labourer

1861 Census
Twerton, Somerset
Robert HALL, 50, Head, Mar, Cloth Dresser, born Hinton, Somerset
Hester Hall, 50, Wife, Mar, born  Turleigh, Wiltshire
Robert Hall, 21, Son, Unm, born Twerton
John Hall, 15, Son, born Twerton
ELIZABETH Hall, 12, Daug, born Twerton
Thomas ASKE, 8, Grandson, born London

1871 Census
Hester Hall, 59, Head, Widow, Pauper, born Turley, Wiltshire
Sarah Hall, 27
Elizabeth Hall, 22 (1849)

1851 Census
Robert Hall, 40
Hester Hall, 37
Sabina Hall, 18
Maria Hall   15
Robert Hall, 11
Jestinia Hall, 9
Sarah Hall, 7
John Hall, 5
Elizabeth Hall, 2

1841 Census
Robt Hall, 30
Esther Hall, 30
Louisa Hall, 11
Setina Hall, 9
Lydia Hall, 7
Maria Hall, 5
Robt Hall, 2

All Census they are living in Twerton

GRO Index;
HALL, ROBERT, Mothers mn KELSON**
GRO Reference: 1839  D Quarter in BATH  Volume 11  Page 35

FreeREG has Baptisms in Twerton for;
Louisa 1830
Sabina 1832
Lydia 1834
Maria 1836
Sarah 1838, buried 1838 age 5mths
Robert 1839
 




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Re: Marriage of Lewis Bradford GILES and Grace
« Reply #30 on: Sunday 22 April 18 15:40 BST (UK) »
Just noticed a Samuel Kelson age 12, Lab, not born in County on 1841 Census with the Hals +
On same page;
Thos Kelson 1781 Grocer
Margaret Kelson   1796
James Kelson 1816
Maria Louisa Kelson 1816
William Kelson 1838    
Catharine Kelson 1840

Robert HALL married Hester KELSON 19 Jul 1830 St Swithin, Walcot, Somerset (Bachelor/Spinster)
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Re: Marriage of Lewis Bradford GILES and Grace
« Reply #31 on: Sunday 22 April 18 15:43 BST (UK) »
Although Elizabeth Perrin nee Hall said she was 33 when she married 1889 she may have shaved a few years of her age given her spouse to be was 25.

Trish :)
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Re: Marriage of Lewis Bradford GILES and Grace
« Reply #32 on: Sunday 22 April 18 16:14 BST (UK) »
Also if Thomas Kelson is Hesters Father Margaret is unlikely to be her Mother.

FreeREG has a Marriage 1835 Bath, Thomas Kelson of Twerton, Widower, to Margaret Fortt, Widow
Her Mother is likely SARAH Kelson who was buried Twerton 28 Jan 1821 age 42

1851 Census James Kelson from 1841 Census is born c 1813/14 Bradford, Wiltshire.

1851 Census Thomas Kelson c 1779 Bradford

GRO Death Reg;
KELSON, THOMAS, age 79 ***
GRO Reference: 1858  M Quarter in BATH  Volume 05C  Page 551
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Re: Marriage of Lewis Bradford GILES and Grace
« Reply #33 on: Sunday 22 April 18 16:30 BST (UK) »
Lastly William Henry Perrin is easy to find 1851/1861/1871 Census.
Born c 1846 English Combe, Somerset
Death Reg Bath 1875 age 29

Possible Child, Mothers mn Hall reg Bath;
Frederick Perrin 1874
He died same year.
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Re: Marriage of Lewis Bradford GILES and Grace
« Reply #34 on: Sunday 22 April 18 16:36 BST (UK) »
Well maybe not the last above; ;D

1881 Census has a Elizabeth Perrin born c 1849 Tiverton, Somerset (image may be Twerton)
A Widow, Ladies Maid, living in the Tate Household in Sevenoaks, Kent.

So entirely possible she ended up in the US by 1889.
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Re: Marriage of Lewis Bradford GILES and Grace
« Reply #35 on: Sunday 22 April 18 23:15 BST (UK) »
Wow so much to take in,
 thanks so much for all your assistance here. So if its the Eliz we are hoping to find she was actually almost 20 years older than her husband to be Lewis Bradford Giles! Maybe she died in childbirth in Virginia USA.
Gosh so many widow/widowers in this story!
Hall -Devon,
Atkinson-Gateshead Durham.
Weir - Swansea
Sumner - Warwickshire
Morrall - Warwickshire
Hill -Cornwall, Australia and NZ
Penhallurick - Cornwall and Australia
McNally - Ireland and UK
Tooze - Devon