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Re: george page marlyborne 1837
« Reply #27 on: Sunday 01 April 18 17:58 BST (UK) »
yes thank you good find lady hawk, that is the same Eliza's  death and child, and without just assuming that is a pretty good chance it is my ancestors, just giving more puzzles though lol  ??? cant find a marriage for a page to a Briggs

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Re: george page marlyborne 1837
« Reply #28 on: Sunday 01 April 18 20:33 BST (UK) »
I'm so sorry to be a pain but where did you see the marriage to Sarah Woodbridge please? I can see the index but that doesn't given the info that you have, so I'm not looking in the wrong places  >:( ...............found it now thank you all

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Re: george page marlyborne 1837
« Reply #29 on: Sunday 01 April 18 21:34 BST (UK) »
yes thank you good find lady hawk, that is the same Eliza's  death and child, and without just assuming that is a pretty good chance it is my ancestors, just giving more puzzles though lol  ??? cant find a marriage for a page to a Briggs

GRO shows these births with mmn Briggs in Marylebone

1839 March quarter William
1840 September quarter William George
1845 June quarter Alfred

The first one might fit with Eliza's death as Ladyhawk found - the others could be a different family.
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Re: george page marlyborne 1837
« Reply #30 on: Monday 02 April 18 09:22 BST (UK) »
The Page/Briggs registrations all seem to fit with another family.  Although they are without the name of Briggs and have the usual inconsistencies to keep us all on our toes.

Marylebone baptisms:
23/12/1840  William Irving Page

18/3/1845    Alfred Page
Both living in Ulster Place - Parents William & Ann Irving

Marylebone burials:
William Page 7/6/1840  15 months  Burne Place

Alfred Page   10/12/1846  1 year 9 months   Ulster Place

William Page mar. Ann Irving Barker (spinster)
22/08/1839  St.Pancras

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Re: george page marlyborne 1837
« Reply #31 on: Monday 02 April 18 09:49 BST (UK) »
Another burial:

Marylebone Sept.1837   William Page  11 months  Little Barlow Street

This matches with George Page’s twin brother born 6th October 1836 in Birmingham - parents Charles & Eliza - coach builder

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Re: george page marlyborne 1837
« Reply #32 on: Monday 02 April 18 10:04 BST (UK) »
i got myself in a right cuffuddle over this last night so walked away, but had a sleepless night with it all going around in my head! so here I am again! lol.
so lily m, that birth entry is not for mine meaning Briggs is out - that's good as I couldn't link it. but the baptism for William in 1839 and death for Eliza in 1839 still stands, meaning that the eliza smith is still a possibility. which also means George came from Birmingham.
having looked at the marriage for William - a fishmonger and the witnesses and the signatures I am sure it is my William - George's brother. that leads to the 1851 census of Charles a fishmonger so my question is, would they have lived in surrey? I have searched the 1861 for a fishmonger and there's nothing obvious I'm not familiar with these districts.
I can see that Charles may have taken another job after bankruptcy and that's how William got into fish trade and then Charles went back to what he knew when he could , by George's marriage in 1861 he was a wheelwright .
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 just gone to post and lily m you have found a burial for William, but that rules out the William surviving the baptism of 1839

Oh my days!!!
 

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Re: george page marlyborne 1837
« Reply #33 on: Monday 02 April 18 10:14 BST (UK) »
The William buried 1837 was George’s twin brother born in Birmingham.

Charles and Eliza then went on to have another William in 1839

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Re: george page marlyborne 1837
« Reply #34 on: Monday 02 April 18 10:25 BST (UK) »
yes I read the date wrong phew 1837 not 1839!
I was having trouble finding the baptism for the William in Birmingham but its over the page, well spotted that thank you, that's the type of thing I need to remember to turn the page  :-[

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Re: george page marlyborne 1837
« Reply #35 on: Monday 02 April 18 10:50 BST (UK) »
It looks as though your Charles was certainly a tryer! Albeit an unfortunate one.

His son, Charles, was born 1835 Meridien Street.

This is from The Gazzette 30th January 1837  informing any creditors that the prisoner has been discharged:

Charles Page, formerly of Mereden Street, Birmingham, Coach Maker, then of 106 Bradford Street Birmingham, Beer Shopkeeper and Coach Maker, then of Congreve Street, Beer Shop and Eating Housekeeper, Coach Maker and Hackneyman, then of Mort-row, Birmingham, Coach Maker and Hackneyman and late of 26 Castle Street, Oxford-market, Middlesex, Coach Maker, out of business.