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Hickie Bros,Kingstown
« on: Sunday 01 April 18 19:53 BST (UK) »
Hi all
     in the 1860s in Dublin in preparation for the Fenian Rising the Hickie bros of Kingstown appeared to be the main recruiters for that area with 
John Hickie being a head centre to quote John Devoy.
by 1866 most prominent leaders had been arrested and held in Mountjoy without trial.
Some were released on bail and some had to procure their own boat fare to America in order to be released and were accompanied to the boat by The D M P usually via Cobh.
I think 4 or 5 of the Hickie bros were arrested but dont know how they were released.
1866 Mountjoy Photos
John
https://digitalcollections.nypl.org/items/510d47dc-96b9-a3d9-e040-e00a18064a99
Michael
https://digitalcollections.nypl.org/items/510d47dc-96ce-a3d9-e040-e00a18064a99
possibly Thomas
https://digitalcollections.nypl.org/items/510d47dc-9715-a3d9-e040-e00a18064a99

William Hickie note the man next to him Aidan Lacy
https://digitalcollections.nypl.org/items/510d47dc-96c0-a3d9-e040-e00a18064a99

on 5th Jan 1863 Joseph Hickie was born in Kingstown to William Hickie and Anne Langan sponsors were Aidan Lacy and Sarah Nevin.
William was possibly born 18th April 1830 in Kingstown to William and Bridget ? Hickie

Elizabeth Hickie was born 1864 at York Terrace Kingstown to William a bricklayer and Anne Langan the informant was Elizabeth's grandmother Bridget
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1864/03618/2335448.pdf

Anne Langan/ Hickie died 1880 at 14 Clarence St ,Dublin
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1880/06479/4863989.pdf

in 1884 William married Jane White   (William Hicks on Irish Genealogy)
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1884/10918/5988663.pdf

in 1901 James Stephens died just before census William Hickie was one of his Pall bearers
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Stephens_(Fenian)

William 1901 a Retort Setter (building of gas blast ovens)
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Dublin/Pembroke_West/Havelock_Square/1287328/

I only found 2 marriages for children
Anne married Frederick Jermyn an English architect in 1898
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1898/10436/5799972.pdf
1901
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Dublin/Rathmines/Leinster_Road__Part_/1296546/

son Francis married Annie Egan in 1899
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1899/10381/5779683.pdf
1911 cant find him 1901
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Dublin/Merchants_Quay__part_of_/Clanbrassil_Street__Lower/78214/

if anyone has anything to add i would appreciate it   eg baptisms or marriages

Dathai

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Re: Hickie Bros,Kingstown
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 01 April 18 23:46 BST (UK) »
Kingstown, John baptised 5 May 1861 for parents William Hickey and Anne Langan (right page, 12th entry down):
https://registers.nli.ie/registers/vtls000633810#page/62/mode/1up

Same parish and parents, Michael born 24 July 1865 and baptised 30 July (7th entry down):
https://registers.nli.ie/registers/vtls000633812#page/89/mode/1up

Patrick born 2 April 1867, baptised 10 April (10th entry down):
https://registers.nli.ie/registers/vtls000633812#page/121/mode/1up


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Re: Hickie Bros,Kingstown
« Reply #2 on: Monday 02 April 18 00:05 BST (UK) »
Just see if I'm following correctly what you already have
William Hickie and Anne Langan married before 1863. You don't have the marriage.
Their children
Joseph 1863 have birth
Elizabeth 1864 have birth

John in census c 1870
Francis c 1871 marriage and census
Ann c 1872 marriage and census.

I can add Michael 1869
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1869/03398/2246195.pdf

Just going to catch up on gaffy post.

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Re: Hickie Bros,Kingstown
« Reply #3 on: Monday 02 April 18 00:06 BST (UK) »
Michael born 23 April 1869, baptised 30 April (9th entry down):
https://registers.nli.ie/registers/vtls000633812#page/158/mode/1up

Anna Maria born 13 February 1871, baptised 19 February (2nd entry down):
https://registers.nli.ie/registers/vtls000633814#page/38/mode/1up

William Hickey married Anne Langan on 23 January 1859 in Kingstown RC parish, witnesses were John Donnegan and Mary Harris (transcript only).



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Re: Hickie Bros,Kingstown
« Reply #4 on: Monday 02 April 18 01:52 BST (UK) »

... I think 4 or 5 of the Hickie bros were arrested but dont know how they were released ...


The Freeman's Journal of 1 May 1866 reported William's release:
ADMITTED TO BAIL.
Mr. Stronge, divisional magistrate, proceeded yesterday, at three o'clock, to Mountjoy prison, and admitted to bail Patrick and William Hickey, of Kingstown, who have been for some time in prison under the suspension of the Habeas Corpus Act.  Each prisoner had to procure two householders as bails, each in 100l, and to enter into his own recognizance in 200l, previous to his release.  Eden Lacy, also of Kingstown, was admitted to bail yesterday.  Lacy, who is a native of Enniscorthy, county Wexford, has been in prison for a considerable time on suspicion of Fenian tendencies.


Back in again, according to the Cork Constitution of 6 December 1866:
THE FENIAN CONSPIRACY - FURTHER ARRESTS. - KINGSTOWN, TUESDAY NIGHT. -
Five men were arrested here this morning by a party of the F Division Metropolitan Police Force, under Inspector Ryan, on a warrant signed by the Lord Lieutenant, charging them with being connected with the Fenian Conspiracy.  Their names are John and William Hickey, John Clancy, John Rochfort, and Hugh Byrne.  The two first-named are brothers, and were previously in custody on a similar charge ;


And released again per the Evening Freeman of 7 February 1867:
ADMITTED TO BAIL. - Mr. William Hickey, a Kingstown tradesman who had been arrested some months since on suspicion of being connected with the Fenian movement, has been admitted to bail.


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Re: Hickie Bros,Kingstown
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Re: Hickie Bros,Kingstown
« Reply #6 on: Monday 02 April 18 08:59 BST (UK) »
Gaffy and Sinann brilliant thank you both gives a good insight into their determination to risk arrest a few times.

Gaffy interesting that you say Aidan Lacy was a wexford man as i found a birth yesterday for a possible son Aidan Lacy at Court St,Enniscorthy 1875 son of Aidan and Mary Doyle no sign of a marriage that i can see
195
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1875/03077/2128044.pdf

1901  he would be right age
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Wexford/Enniscorthy_Urban/St__John_s_Street/1788286/

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Re: Hickie Bros,Kingstown
« Reply #7 on: Monday 02 April 18 09:47 BST (UK) »

... Gaffy interesting that you say Aidan Lacy was a wexford man as i found a birth yesterday for a possible son Aidan Lacy at Court St,Enniscorthy 1875 son of Aidan and Mary Doyle no sign of a marriage that i can see
195
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1875/03077/2128044.pdf

1901  he would be right age
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Wexford/Enniscorthy_Urban/St__John_s_Street/1788286/


This reported occupation from Saunders' News-Letter of 1 May 1866 would support it:
William and Patrick Hickey, masons ; and Eden Lacy, painter, three of the young men who had been arrested in this locality a few months since the Suspension Act, were this day released from custody on giving solvent bail.

Another earlier 1866 newspaper item had described the six arrested Kingstown men as: ... Patrick, Michael, William and John Hickey, (four brothers), bricklayers by trade ; Eden Lacey, painter and Patrick Rodgers, a shop assistant.


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Re: Hickie Bros,Kingstown
« Reply #8 on: Monday 02 April 18 10:22 BST (UK) »
Super again Gaffy  so Patrick Hickie seems to have avoided being photographed at least i know their names now.
Probably the shopkeeper Patrick Rogers
https://digitalcollections.nypl.org/items/510d47dc-96a9-a3d9-e040-e00a18064a99

great to be able to put a face to the names.

edited to add a Patrick Rogers married Margaret Duffy in Rathmines 1866 most of their childrens births have father as Grocer or Vintner  possible ?