Author Topic: Catherine Ferns Ryan, emigrated 1929 to Quebec, then on to New York .. cant find  (Read 3915 times)

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I have been searching for Catherine Ferns Ryan for some years with no success. I dont know where to go next.
I wondered if it is possible to gain an SS Number?
This has been posted before, but I am trying again.
Catherine Ferns Ryan, born 1907  Uddingston, Lanark, Scotland. Emigrated 1929 via Quebec to the USA. No information after that. The last thing I can think of is an SS Number. Can anyone help, please? Thx. Kathy

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Re: Catherine Ferns Ryan, emigrated 1929 to Quebec, then on to New York .. cant find
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 04 April 18 15:20 BST (UK) »
Background info from previous thread.........

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=771784.0

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Re: Catherine Ferns Ryan, emigrated 1929 to Quebec, then on to New York .. cant find
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 04 April 18 16:35 BST (UK) »
The only places i can think of where you're likely to find a Social Security number is the Social Security death index (where she hasn't seemed to turn up yet), the Social Security application database on a certain subscription site, and death certificates. 

Do you have Catherine's father's name? 

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Re: Catherine Ferns Ryan, emigrated 1929 to Quebec, then on to New York .. cant find
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 04 April 18 19:25 BST (UK) »
Hi Shelley, fathers name
James Ryan born c1870 in Greenock, Scotland
Mother
Mary Bonar born 1872 in Cambuslang, Scotland.

What about marriage indexes?

Thx Kathy


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Re: Catherine Ferns Ryan, emigrated 1929 to Quebec, then on to New York .. cant find
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 04 April 18 19:31 BST (UK) »
There isn't a BMD Index in the USA as there is in the UK.  What is available varies  State to State and County to County.
What is available is shown in the family search collections index.

https://www.familysearch.org/search/collection/list

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Re: Catherine Ferns Ryan, emigrated 1929 to Quebec, then on to New York .. cant find
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 04 April 18 19:33 BST (UK) »
Like Sandra said, you would need to search the index in the city/state where she got married, and not every area's marriage index is online.  http://www.germanroots.com/vitalrecords.html has links to a lot of what's online.

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Re: Catherine Ferns Ryan, emigrated 1929 to Quebec, then on to New York .. cant find
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 05 April 18 10:04 BST (UK) »
Thx Shelley Sandra and Maggsie for your help. That gives me a few ideas to try :)

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I have the following person who is a bit younger according to the 1940 census, but I wouldn’t dismiss her as a possibility.

In December 1941, the Poughkeepsie Journal has an article on naturalisation. One of the names is a “Catherine Fern Ryan Mcmillan, Glenham, native of Scotland” (Note Glenham is a hamlet in Dutchess County, New York)

There is this person in the 1940 census (b abt 1910, so a bit younger):
United States Census, 1940
Name:   Katherine Mcmillan
Event Place:   Assembly District 2, Queens, New York City, Queens, New York, United States
Sex:   Female
Age:   29
Marital Status:   Married
Race (Original):   White
Race:   White
Relationship to Head of Household (Original):   Wife
Relationship to Head of Household:   Wife
Birthplace:   Scotland
Last Place of Residence:   Same Place
Household   Role   Sex   Age   Birthplace
Wallace A Mcmillan   Head   Male   30   California
Katherine Mcmillan   Wife   Female   29   Scotland
Daniel Mcmillan   Son   Male   6   New York
(*) Mcmillan   Son   Male   4   New York
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QS7-L9MB-MCMW?i=14&cc=2000219

In Jan 1962, (*) McMillan gets married. He is from Fishkill and “son of Wallace A McMillan and the late Catherine Fern McMillan
Possibility: The death of a  42y old “Catherin F McMillan” can be found in the 1952 NY death index

This is the the other son (Daniel Angus McMillan gets married in 1957 and is mentioned as the son of Wallace A. McMillan)
California Death Index, 1940-1997
Name:   Daniel Angus Mcmillan
Event Type:   Death
Event Date:   14 Sep 1991
Event Place:   San Bernardino, California, United States
Birth Date:   01 Oct 1932
Birthplace:   New York
Gender:   Male
Mother's Name:   Ryan

Note: In 1954 a Wallace A McMillan marries Rita McCormick (https://www.legacy.com/obituaries/poughkeepsiejournal/obituary.aspx?n=rita-mcmillan&pid=174718045&fhid=15396 ). He dies in 1968 (https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/173369432 ), but this one also seems to be a bit older than the one in the 1940 census.

Sylvia



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Wow, this is a fantastic result for Kathy.  Well done Sylvia. Perseverance certainly paid off.  ;)

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