Patrick Gearon & Mary Quinlan, London c1889

[Jessies Mum]

Oh wow heywood, what fantastic information you have found!  This is amazing!  I'll start going through your messages one at a time and try to piece it altogether.

I have Thomas and Kate in the 1911 Ireland census - they were in Antrim.

I knew the spelling would play a part in all of this!  I guess back in those days it was definitely all about how the name sounded!

Can't thank you enough for what you have been able to discover, this is certainly opening up avenues for further discovery.  Sincerely appreciate the time you are putting into this.

[heywood]

I have seen them in 1911 now thanks. Although he gives his p o b as Belfast.

This looks to be Thomas in 1901 1008/55/9
A Private (married) in Portsmouth 37 yrs b Bermondsey
with First Royal Rifle Reserve Regiment and Fourth Oxfordshire Light Infantry Battalions

[heywood]

I think this is them in 1871 630/191/26

Patrick and Mary Garron
Thomas b 1859 but not in 1861 census

Very difficult to match any births

Just in case you can’t find them. I gave the wrong reference above 
1871 630/101/26 - Patric Garron

Here is family Search https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:VRF8-9LV

[heywood]

I just can’t find other births apart from the ones I have mentioned so am not confident with the censuses.
I would advise caution.no signs at all in 1881 

[Jessies Mum]

Thank you heywood, your suggestions have been so helpful - thank you.

Now to go back to the Irish forum to see if I can find Patrick and/or Mary's births!

[heywood]

Here is another suggestion  if that is the right family even though we can’t find births etc, there is this family in 1851 1560/398/41
6 Glovers Place

John Quinlan 37 yrs
Jane Quinlan 38 yrs
Catharine Quinlan 15 yrs
Mary Geary daughter married 21 yrs
Michael Quinlan   12 yrs
John Quinlan   8 yrs
Patrick Quinlan   5byrs
John Geary grandson 6 months
Patrick Geary son in law 30 yrs
David Connors brother in law 30 yrs
Mary Murphy visitor 55 yrs

Mentioned before John Geran birth 1850 mmn Quindan

This would imply that there should be a marriage for Patrick and Mary in England

Also birth Patrick Quinland 1846 Mmn Connor

[jonw65]

I found Patrick snr, I think in 1891 - in the Workhouse, Bermondsey

Register of Relations, St. Olave's Union
Patrick Gearing
admitted 24 February 1891
last resident 13 Salisbury Street
cause Bronchitis
relatives -
wife Mary, 13 Salisbury St. Bermondsey
son Patrick, Tanner St. Workhouse
3 sons John, in the Army
Michael & Thomas, addresses unknown

or were all three of them in the army

Some earlier admissions with the bronchitis, addresses in Salisbury Street.

[heywood]

That’s a great find, thanks, Jon.
I think I have seen some possibilities for those boys in the army - will have another look. It is the spellings that prove difficult 

[jonw65]

It is the spellings that prove difficult 

Yes indeed, you've performed wonders to find all that you have!
John