Author Topic: Joseph Old/Olds m Jenifer Matthews Wearne 1870  (Read 488 times)

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Joseph Old/Olds m Jenifer Matthews Wearne 1870
« on: Monday 09 April 18 15:44 BST (UK) »
I'm in another bit of a pickle and probably over something or nothing but I do prefer to at attempt to get things right if possible. I'm attempting to trace Joseph Old(s) parentage and wonder if anyone can confirm my findings...I think he may be one of many siblings born to a Thomas Old and a Jane Waters but am quite prepared to have other suggestions. The 1841 census has Thomas & Jane and family together in Redruth Union area and this fits with the births of children in Illogan/Crowan; similarly in 1851 census wherein William & Joseph (twins) & others appear. 1861 has Jane a widow and moved to Helston with later children's births there registered. 1871 Jane has moved to St Just and become "Olds"! Joseph has "Olds" on his marriage details and thereafter until his death c.1924 in Cumbria. Is this Joseph pretty certain to be William's twin & Thomas & Jane's son? Any chance of a baptism record, please?

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Re: Joseph Old/Olds m Jenifer Matthews Wearne 1870
« Reply #1 on: Monday 09 April 18 16:17 BST (UK) »
Marriage details for information

10-Dec-1870
Pendeen
Joseph OLDS -bachelor -occ Miner -Father Thomas occ Miner
Age   23
Residence   Boscaswell

Jennifer WEARNE - spinster -father William occ Miner
Age   26
Residence   Boscaswell

Witnesses
William Thomas
Grace Olds
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Re: Joseph Old/Olds m Jenifer Matthews Wearne 1870
« Reply #2 on: Monday 09 April 18 16:21 BST (UK) »
Joseph's marriage is on the Cornwall OPC site and gives his father as Thomas Olds and one of the witnesses was a Grace Olds. Thomas and Jane had a daughter Grace baptised 1856 in Crowan.

This is the ref for his birth

Joseph Old Mar 1848 Redruth 9 270 mmn Waters

however I cannot see a baptism for him

The Cornwall opc site has the following baptisms for children of Thomas and Jane - I've checked the Gro site and they all have mmn Waters except for John which reads Walters -a typo I think.

Thomas bapt. 1836
John bapt. 1838
Ann bapt. 1848
James born 1850 bapt. 1857
Elizabeth born 1852 bapt. 1857
Grace bapt. 1856

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Re: Joseph Old/Olds m Jenifer Matthews Wearne 1870
« Reply #3 on: Monday 09 April 18 16:28 BST (UK) »
Think I'm agreeing - have been double checking so didn't see previous posts until I posted!


GRO has birth registrations for a William and Joseph Old,Redruth,  March Q, 1848 vol 9 page 270. MMN Waters.

This would fit approximately  with age given on marriage (10 Dec 1870, St Just) as 23 and father named as Thomas. He probably added a few months as Jennifer is down as b. 1844.

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Re: Joseph Old/Olds m Jenifer Matthews Wearne 1870
« Reply #4 on: Monday 09 April 18 16:32 BST (UK) »
marriage for Thomas Old & Jane Walters 28 May 1836 in Crowan.

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Cornwall: Allen, Bevan, Bosisto, Carnpezzack, Donithorn, Huddy, James, Retallack, Russell, Vincent, Yeoman
Cards: Thomas (Llanbadarn Fawr)
Glam: Bowler, Cram, Galloway, James, Thomas, Watkins
Lincs: Coupland, Cram
Mon: Cram, Gwyn, John, Philpot, Smart, Watkins
Pembs: Edwards (St. Dogmael's)
Yorks: Airey, Bowler, Elliott, Hare, Hewitt, Kellett, Kemp, Stephenson, Tebb

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Re: Joseph Old/Olds m Jenifer Matthews Wearne 1870
« Reply #5 on: Monday 09 April 18 16:37 BST (UK) »
register has Walters but bride & groom both marked

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Cornwall: Allen, Bevan, Bosisto, Carnpezzack, Donithorn, Huddy, James, Retallack, Russell, Vincent, Yeoman
Cards: Thomas (Llanbadarn Fawr)
Glam: Bowler, Cram, Galloway, James, Thomas, Watkins
Lincs: Coupland, Cram
Mon: Cram, Gwyn, John, Philpot, Smart, Watkins
Pembs: Edwards (St. Dogmael's)
Yorks: Airey, Bowler, Elliott, Hare, Hewitt, Kellett, Kemp, Stephenson, Tebb

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Re: Joseph Old/Olds m Jenifer Matthews Wearne 1870
« Reply #6 on: Monday 09 April 18 19:37 BST (UK) »
Many thanks for all those very swift replies. I'm more confident about Joseph Old(s) parents and will settle for Thomas & Jane. The transcription errors are many and varied...