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Re: Catherine Oldenburg Princess of Norway and Denmark
« Reply #9 on: Wednesday 11 April 18 10:19 BST (UK) »
Thanks for the info it appears even the sources quoted cannot agree on the number of children / siblings......... My Heritage seems to be at best a skeleton needing flesh.. 

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Re: Catherine Oldenburg Princess of Norway and Denmark
« Reply #10 on: Wednesday 11 April 18 11:18 BST (UK) »
Fair enough  ::)
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Re: Catherine Oldenburg Princess of Norway and Denmark
« Reply #11 on: Wednesday 11 April 18 12:47 BST (UK) »
There is supposition that an affair between Frederick II and Anne Corfitzdatter Hardenbeg let to the possibility of child(ren) Catherine perhaps being one of them, but so far, there seems to be little or no documented proof of this.
Considering that Frederick II married Sophia of Mecklenburg Gustrow in 1572 on July 20th, and Catherine's birth was reported as on 8 Apr 1580 was he having an affair with a lost love during his marriage. Will we ever know??

"1573 Acting County Sheriff Anne Corfitzdatter Hardenberg of Helsingborg (Sweden)
Of high nobility, she was chamber-maid to Queen Dorothea 1557-71, and here she got to know king Frederik II (king from 1559) who fell in love with her, and wanted to marry her, but this met widespread opposition. In 1572 she married Councillor of the Realm, Oluf Mouritsen Krognos, who died after only six months marriage. She lived at her dowry Bregentved and managed to keep her husband’s family at distance with the help of the royal family. She (d. 1589).

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Re: Catherine Oldenburg Princess of Norway and Denmark
« Reply #12 on: Wednesday 11 April 18 21:24 BST (UK) »
 Something in reply #6 form davidft puzzles me.
"Catherine had 11 siblings: Mary 'Queen of Scots' England (born Stuart) ...."  Who she?   ???

The second list has 8 children of King Frederick. Number 2 is Anne of Denmark who became wife of King James 6th of Scotland & 1st of England, so Ann was Queen of Scotland and England. I know fine well who she was. Mother of King James was Mary, Queen of Scots. But who was meant by the other "Mary 'Queen of Scots' England"?
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Re: Catherine Oldenburg Princess of Norway and Denmark
« Reply #13 on: Wednesday 11 April 18 21:37 BST (UK) »
If you read the contents contained in

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mary,_Queen_of_Scots

including :- Claim to the English throne

but having read the article, you will notice a discrepancy in the parentage.

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Re: Catherine Oldenburg Princess of Norway and Denmark
« Reply #14 on: Wednesday 11 April 18 22:35 BST (UK) »
If you read the contents contained in

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mary,_Queen_of_Scots

including :- Claim to the English throne

but having read the article, you will notice a discrepancy in the parentage.

Malky
I know all about Mary, Queen of Scots. I once had an individual escorted tour of Holyrood Palace
 (it was a quiet day). I've examined the notorious bloodstain. I simply don't understand the suggestion that she was a sister of this alleged Danish princess. That would make her a step-sister to her own daughter-in-law. I know royalty had convoluted alliances back then but that's carrying things a bit far. (Roll eyes)
Do you mean discrepancy in the parentage on My Heritage? I'm with you there.
Another family tree has earlier birth and death years for Catherine. Another gives her a prior husband. I have doubts about anyone on a family tree who lived to such a great age unless dates are documented.
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Re: Catherine Oldenburg Princess of Norway and Denmark
« Reply #15 on: Thursday 12 April 18 12:34 BST (UK) »
Something in reply #6 form davidft puzzles me.
"Catherine had 11 siblings: Mary 'Queen of Scots' England (born Stuart) ...."  Who she?   ???

I have no idea. The purpose of posting the MyHeritage data was my closing line to it i.e.

"Needless so say there is no source." That in my opinion was the crux of the matter.


Similarly in posting the 8 children of Frederick II the main purpose was the closing line

"Note there is no Catherine and not a sufficient gap for a missing Catherine to be born in 1580"

Alas the OP seems to have dismissed that out of hand as they did the two links I gave. I know there was a discrepancy in the two links I gave but there was a whole lot more which the OP either ignored or did not pick up on. That is a shame as they provided a way for them to try and progress the claims of "Princess Catherine." So in short I decided to opt out of this thread and have only replied in order to answer your specific querry.
James Stott c1775-1850. James was born in Yorkshire but where? He was a stonemason and married Elizabeth Archer (nee Nicholson) in 1794 at Ripon. They lived thereafter in Masham. If anyone has any suggestions or leads as to his birthplace I would be interested to know. I have searched for it for years without success. Thank you.

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Re: Catherine Oldenburg Princess of Norway and Denmark
« Reply #16 on: Thursday 12 April 18 17:13 BST (UK) »
Thanks for the info it appears even the sources quoted cannot agree on the number of children / siblings......... My Heritage seems to be at best a skeleton needing flesh..

Seems to me they are skeletons with limbs attached which belong to other skeletons.  ;D
Didn't the British Museum have a dinosaur on prominent display for years and was eventually proved to be parts of 2 species? Even experts aren't always right.
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Re: Catherine Oldenburg Princess of Norway and Denmark
« Reply #17 on: Wednesday 07 October 20 19:49 BST (UK) »
I too am wondering why a princess of Denmark would marry in Sedgley.
I found an article a while ago that said that Catherine was the illegitimate daughter of the king and one of the ladies in waiting of the court, Anne Hardenburg. Catherine was subsequently banished but no explanation of how she ended up in Sedgley.