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St Helena British soldier & family 1810-1821
« on: Tuesday 10 April 18 21:55 BST (UK) »
Hi,
Im researching Edward George who was born on St Helena in 1815 to John and Isabella. I think John was a British soldier. Their eldest child was born in 1810 on St Helena. Where would i find further info about Johns army career please and as he was there 5 years before Napoleon arrived does this make it easier to narrow down what regiment he was part of? Thank you.

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Re: St Helena British soldier & family 1810-1821
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 10 April 18 22:24 BST (UK) »
Hi,

Do you know when & where the parents John & Isabella George were born?

When & where were John & Isabella married?

I have located baptisms for the following children born in St Helena to John & Isabella:

James George born 1810
William George born 1812
Edward George born 1815

Do you have these?

How many children did John & Isabella have in total & when & where were they born?

The answers to my questions may help to find records pertinent to John, including military.

Hope this helps.

Kind regards

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(For more information on the above surnames please check the Surname Interest Table below.)

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Re: St Helena British soldier & family 1810-1821
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 10 April 18 23:06 BST (UK) »
Some links that may be of use

https://indiafamily.bl.uk/ui/Sources.aspx
(tells of whereabouts of copies of registers etc)

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=396741.0
(A thread from on here with some useful information and tips)

https://www.fibis.org/st-helena-south-atlantic-banns-marriage-1849-1924/
(Although this deals with later dates they may be worth contacting if other leads come to nought)

According to the forbears website
http://forebears.co.uk/south-africa/cape-of-good-hope/st-helena-bay
some St Helena records should be on familysearch, but I did not have any luck looking for Edward George on there
EDIT: This information is actually about St Helena Bay a colony on the South African coast so not what you are looking for.

Findmypast has "British Armed Forces And Overseas Births And Baptisms", not sure when they start and although St Helena is mentioned on there they do not appear to have records for around 1815 that would be of use to you

And in case you have not got it there is an official St Helena Government website complete with a contact us page (although if getting in touch try and be very specific and do not expect them to do too much as they have very limited resources)
http://www.sainthelena.gov.sh/get-in-touch/

A couple of links giving historic details of St Helena (was under East India Company control until 1815) but it does not name the regiments there.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saint_Helena
http://sainthelenaisland.info/briefhistory.htm

and finally the Island has an online presence that may prove useful
http://sthelenaonline.org/2018/02/
When and where did they die ?

Joseph Dodd born 1847 Corbridge, Northumberland  and Isabella Dodd (nee Thirwell) born 1848 Allendale, Northumberland. In 1911  they were living at Leadgate, Durham.

(As well as there being several people of these names around the surname is sometimes given as Dodds)

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Re: St Helena British soldier & family 1810-1821
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 11 April 18 09:49 BST (UK) »
All three births are recorded in the British India Office Ecclesiastical Returns Births and Baptisms (on FindMyPast) which indicates the father was serving with the East India Company rather than with the British Army.  Your search for him should concentrate on the EIC info provided by davidft.  The returns have only names, no further detail.

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Re: St Helena British soldier & family 1810-1821
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 11 April 18 12:28 BST (UK) »
Thank you all. Pardon my ignorance but what was the East India Company and how did this differ from the British army please? Thank you.

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Re: St Helena British soldier & family 1810-1821
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 11 April 18 12:30 BST (UK) »
Thank you all. Pardon my ignorance but what was the East India Company and how did this differ from the British army please? Thank you.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/East_India_Company
When and where did they die ?

Joseph Dodd born 1847 Corbridge, Northumberland  and Isabella Dodd (nee Thirwell) born 1848 Allendale, Northumberland. In 1911  they were living at Leadgate, Durham.

(As well as there being several people of these names around the surname is sometimes given as Dodds)

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Re: St Helena British soldier & family 1810-1821
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 11 April 18 12:36 BST (UK) »
Thank you for that. On Hugh George's baptism transcription 1817 (one of John's children) it says John was of the St Helena Regiment. Was that to do with the EIC then and not the British Army? Thanks

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Re: St Helena British soldier & family 1810-1821
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 11 April 18 13:02 BST (UK) »
The pre-1836 St Helena Regiment was HEIC.

http://www.sthelenaisland.info/the-st-helena-regiment/
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