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Offline Kirsty Edwards

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Re: Tracing past Scotland to Ireland
« Reply #18 on: Wednesday 11 April 18 23:44 BST (UK) »
I don't use FamilySearch for censuses but I presume this is where you have cut and pasted these censuses from? (just a guess because Maria is called "Mrs David Crossgrove"  ;) )

Someone with more knowledge will be know for sure, but I am wondering if viewing the originals on Scotland's People would give more detail than simply "Ireland"?

Sadly I know that this is often not the case. 

Added: Just a thought ... I don't suppose you have checked to see if David and Maria married in Scotland?

I got those off Ancestry when I had my two week trial. It was before 1855 (their marriage) so nothing on Scotlandpeoples - where else would I look if in Scotland?

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Re: Tracing past Scotland to Ireland
« Reply #19 on: Wednesday 11 April 18 23:49 BST (UK) »
Church records pre 1855 are on Scotland's people.

https://www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk/guides/church-registers

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Re: Tracing past Scotland to Ireland
« Reply #20 on: Wednesday 11 April 18 23:52 BST (UK) »
Church records pre 1855 are on Scotland's people.

https://www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk/guides/church-registers

Is it paying for the record? Oh and Church of Scotland! so, Protestant and Presbyterian in Ireland ?

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Re: Tracing past Scotland to Ireland
« Reply #21 on: Thursday 12 April 18 00:11 BST (UK) »

and for Maria Aitken Broadley I'm missing 1871 & 1881 for her. I couldn't find them.




Maria Crossgrove is listed aged 66 on the 1871 Census at Kirkmichael , Ayrshire
and aged  76 on the 1881 Census at Crosshill, Ayrshire.
Both records are available to view on Scotlands People.

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Re: Tracing past Scotland to Ireland
« Reply #22 on: Thursday 12 April 18 00:43 BST (UK) »
Just to get a feel for possible locations, I looked for the surname in the Irish censuses.

I could not find any with the spelling Crossgrove, but found a few in the 1901 and 1911 censuses as Crosgrove, mainly centered around Armagh with a couple in Wicklow.

Just a very vague clue and it maybe worth you searching for the alternative spelling.

What about COSGROVE or  COSGRAVE like Liam Cosgrave, former Taoiseach (Prime Minister) of Ireland?
There's a website which lists alternatives of surnames in Ireland.
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Re: Tracing past Scotland to Ireland
« Reply #23 on: Thursday 12 April 18 00:48 BST (UK) »
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Re: Tracing past Scotland to Ireland
« Reply #24 on: Thursday 12 April 18 01:26 BST (UK) »
Church records pre 1855 are on Scotland's people.

https://www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk/guides/church-registers

Is it paying for the record? Oh and Church of Scotland! so, Protestant and Presbyterian in Ireland ?
Was this marriage after births of elder children, James, Mary and Elizabeth and possibly after Jane's birth?

I'm sorry you've lost me here - this refers to Jane's Baptism. I can't find David & Maria's marriage - I assume they married in Ireland

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Re: Tracing past Scotland to Ireland
« Reply #25 on: Thursday 12 April 18 01:33 BST (UK) »
Religion?

I know it says David was a church officer but to which church i have no idea
My 1st guess would be a church in Crosshill or Kirkmichael. The 2 villages are within easy walking distance. Perhaps Straiton.  It may have been a church in Maybole.
Religious denomination probably Church of Scotland or Free Church. (I'm not clued-up on dates of splits.)  There will be a list on GEN UKI, with distances.
Looking at addresses of the family on 1851 & 1861 census, it seems to me that they were in the same place in Crosshill at each census or very near. Back Street is behind present-day Dalhowan Street. The widowed Mrs Crossgrove was living on King St.,  Crosshill's main street in 1891, so hadn't moved far.
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Re: Tracing past Scotland to Ireland
« Reply #26 on: Thursday 12 April 18 01:42 BST (UK) »
Re my post # 23.  I read it wrongly.  :-[ Brain giving up. I've deleted that post. Sorry for confusion.
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