Author Topic: Supporting documentation for John Jones, Lydia Williams, Leah Emazine Jones  (Read 780 times)

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Re: Supporting documentation for John Jones, Lydia Williams, Leah Emazine Jones
« Reply #36 on: Monday 16 April 18 12:53 BST (UK) »
One of the things which is puzzling is the 1845 marriage cert for John and Lydia. On this, both their fathers are given as J. <surname> and labourer as if they didn't know.

If you have a look at FamilySearch for other marriages which took place in that church, all of the father's names only have an initial for their first name.

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Re: Supporting documentation for John Jones, Lydia Williams, Leah Emazine Jones
« Reply #37 on: Monday 16 April 18 13:21 BST (UK) »
Hmm- yes but you selectively quoted - the occupation was my main point:

One of the things which is puzzling is the 1845 marriage cert for John and Lydia. On this, both their fathers are given as J. <surname> and labourer as if they didn't know.

This is especially puzzling, given that the John that you've identified was a malster on the 1841 and 1851,  and is also given as a malster on the baptisms of Elizabeth and Emma in 1832.

Hmm - not convinced about John and Ellen.



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Re: Supporting documentation for John Jones, Lydia Williams, Leah Emazine Jones
« Reply #38 on: Monday 16 April 18 13:28 BST (UK) »
Looking at baptisms, John became a malster sometime between 1822 and 1828.
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Re: Supporting documentation for John Jones, Lydia Williams, Leah Emazine Jones
« Reply #39 on: Monday 16 April 18 13:31 BST (UK) »
Lydia's death certificate of 1858 also has John as a labourer.
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Re: Supporting documentation for John Jones, Lydia Williams, Leah Emazine Jones
« Reply #40 on: Thursday 19 April 18 07:56 BST (UK) »
I went through the 1841 census in Trefonen looking for a reference to Moelydd farm, which was the listed abode in the 1840 birth certificate for Leah Jones. It's referred to as "Moyleth Farm" on page 2 of District 12 in the census. (https://drive.google.com/open?id=1kBI9aWohFh-UVK5oXeYib403JOXpl14-), where it appears the farmer's family name is Tudor. There is a male servant Thomas Jones and female servant Ann (?) Jones present in the household, both aged 20. John and Lydia would have been about 26 in 1841. No sign of any Williamses at Moelydd.

Progress thus far:
Location of birth record and 1841 census record for John, Lydia, and Leah.
Location of birth records, 1841 and 1851 for candidate family of Lydia in Oswestry, though inconclusive connection.

As usual, many many questions!