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Re: ELIZABETH BRAGG BORN CIRCA 1803 NEWINGTON. SON HENRY ALEXANDER BRAGG
« Reply #27 on: Saturday 05 May 18 14:41 BST (UK) »
Norwood Schools A+D
Sarah Bragg, 13, admitted 27 March 1856
Rosina Bragg, 8, admitted 14 April 1856
Both in workhouse before the school
Neither could read

then we have
Rosina Bragg, admitted 18? April 1857, still 8!
Caroline Bragg, 8, admitted 31 May 1858, from infant school

Don't think there is discharge info for them.
Not too easy to read those entries.

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Elizabeth Bragg Born Newington 1803, son Henry Alexander Bragg
« Reply #28 on: Saturday 28 November 20 10:33 GMT (UK) »
I  have worked for a long time on this family, with the help of fellow Rootschatters

I think that Edward Packer Bragg and Sarah Phillippo/Phillips was in fact the parents of Alexander Bragg who later seems to be called Henry Alexander Bragg, I believe after his uncle Henry Wollen,

Edward Packer Bragg born circa 1790 fathered at least 5 children between 1843 and 1850, I believe Edward died in 1855 and Sarah 1857, as far as I can see there are no registrations for the children above or baptisms, but still looking, frustrating!!

I baptism found for Sarah Ann Georgina only

I believe I have 1851 with Edward Sarah and family but unfortunately there are no places of birth shown with my Alexander aged 6 , (later Henry Alexander)

So I am now going to invest in a few certificates

This is an old topic but I thought I would bring it up to date


Louisa Maud

Rosina and Caroline are in Lambeth workhouse as mentioned here,

1861 I find both Rosina and Caroline in Lambeth Workhouse Industrial School, Rosina aged 12 and Caroline aged 10, both showing born Lambeth, not sure where I can find more info about the workhouse


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Granath Sweden and London
Garner, Marylebone Paddington  Northolt Ilford
Garner, Devon
Garner New Zealand
Maddieson
Parkinson St Pancras,
Jenkins Marylebone Paddington
Mizon/Mison/Myson Paddington
Tindal Marylebone Paddington
Tocock, (name changed to Ellis) London
Southam Marylebone, Paddington
Bragg Lambeth 1800's
Edermaniger(Maniger) Essex Kent Canada (Toronto)
Coveney Kent Lambeth
Sondes kent and London

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Re: ELIZABETH BRAGG BORN CIRCA 1803 NEWINGTON. SON HENRY ALEXANDER BRAGG
« Reply #29 on: Wednesday 14 September 22 08:53 BST (UK) »
Well folks, after all this time and quite by accident  I have found a birth of a child born and died between census

Born 1872  Nellie Francesca Rosina Bragg MMN Linton
Died 1875 and buried Sept 1875 Lambeth

So looking at this I find a child with the name Rosina, was this child named after Henry Alexander's sister  born to Edward mother MMN Phillipo

Louisa Maud
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Granath Sweden and London
Garner, Marylebone Paddington  Northolt Ilford
Garner, Devon
Garner New Zealand
Maddieson
Parkinson St Pancras,
Jenkins Marylebone Paddington
Mizon/Mison/Myson Paddington
Tindal Marylebone Paddington
Tocock, (name changed to Ellis) London
Southam Marylebone, Paddington
Bragg Lambeth 1800's
Edermaniger(Maniger) Essex Kent Canada (Toronto)
Coveney Kent Lambeth
Sondes kent and London

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Re: ELIZABETH BRAGG BORN CIRCA 1803 NEWINGTON. SON HENRY ALEXANDER BRAGG
« Reply #30 on: Thursday 15 September 22 16:03 BST (UK) »
Today I have ordered a death cert for Edward (Parker) Bragg, wrongly shown as Packer not Parker, I believe Edward died in 1855  , so we shall see if we are on the right lines, I think we are with your help, thank  you

LM









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Granath Sweden and London
Garner, Marylebone Paddington  Northolt Ilford
Garner, Devon
Garner New Zealand
Maddieson
Parkinson St Pancras,
Jenkins Marylebone Paddington
Mizon/Mison/Myson Paddington
Tindal Marylebone Paddington
Tocock, (name changed to Ellis) London
Southam Marylebone, Paddington
Bragg Lambeth 1800's
Edermaniger(Maniger) Essex Kent Canada (Toronto)
Coveney Kent Lambeth
Sondes kent and London


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Re: ELIZABETH BRAGG BORN CIRCA 1803 NEWINGTON. SON HENRY ALEXANDER BRAGG
« Reply #31 on: Thursday 15 September 22 23:13 BST (UK) »
Hi Louisa Maud
Good luck with the certificate!
Do let us know how you get on with it.
John

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Re: ELIZABETH BRAGG BORN CIRCA 1803 NEWINGTON. SON HENRY ALEXANDER BRAGG
« Reply #32 on: Friday 16 September 22 07:44 BST (UK) »
No doubt you realise that I was barking up the wrong tree, Elizabeth Bragg wasn't the mother of Henry Alexander Bragg, I spent year working on this , then with help  on RC  and myself finding the Wollen family  it has all fallen into place, so time will tell when the cert arrives, I will let you know, as always can't wait

LM
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Granath Sweden and London
Garner, Marylebone Paddington  Northolt Ilford
Garner, Devon
Garner New Zealand
Maddieson
Parkinson St Pancras,
Jenkins Marylebone Paddington
Mizon/Mison/Myson Paddington
Tindal Marylebone Paddington
Tocock, (name changed to Ellis) London
Southam Marylebone, Paddington
Bragg Lambeth 1800's
Edermaniger(Maniger) Essex Kent Canada (Toronto)
Coveney Kent Lambeth
Sondes kent and London

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Re: ELIZABETH BRAGG BORN CIRCA 1803 NEWINGTON. SON HENRY ALEXANDER BRAGG
« Reply #33 on: Tuesday 27 September 22 15:32 BST (UK) »
As promised, received cert today
I am very disappointed to receive the cert of Edward Bragg today, I feel he must be the wrong Edward Bragg
And another thing the page was shown as 178 but mine in the No column is 198

22/04/1855
St Stephens School Rochester Row, Westminster
71 years
Formerly a builder. Master
Apoplexy suddenly certified
informant Henry Bragg of same address
As far as I know Edward didn't have a son Henry, one son took on that name but he would have been 10 at the time of being an informant, surely not
Edward was an artist, not a builder
Back to the drawing board, I am loath to purchase Sarah Ann Bragg death about 1857 just in case it is another £11 down the drain

LM
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Granath Sweden and London
Garner, Marylebone Paddington  Northolt Ilford
Garner, Devon
Garner New Zealand
Maddieson
Parkinson St Pancras,
Jenkins Marylebone Paddington
Mizon/Mison/Myson Paddington
Tindal Marylebone Paddington
Tocock, (name changed to Ellis) London
Southam Marylebone, Paddington
Bragg Lambeth 1800's
Edermaniger(Maniger) Essex Kent Canada (Toronto)
Coveney Kent Lambeth
Sondes kent and London

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Re: ELIZABETH BRAGG BORN CIRCA 1803 NEWINGTON. SON HENRY ALEXANDER BRAGG
« Reply #34 on: Tuesday 27 September 22 20:13 BST (UK) »
Hi LM
Sorry about your certificate, it certainly isn't the right one. So Edward has to go on the missing list.
I'm not sure that the Sarah Ann Bragg death certificate will help anyway, even if it is the right lady.
There is a burial indexed at on FS for her, 14 April 1857, with her age given as 40 (it is 38 on the death reg) Burial was at Lambeth Cemetery.
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:C6C5-Y7ZM

General point - Don't forget that you can get pdfs for deaths up to 1957 for £7, which is a bit more affordable.

I've come across this one, but don't know who he is. With the "double p" in there, could they have misread the last letter?
BRAGG, WILLIAM       
Mother's Maiden Surname: PHILLIPPS 
GRO Reference: 1853  S Quarter in WESTMINSTER  Volume 01A  Page 240

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Re: ELIZABETH BRAGG BORN CIRCA 1803 NEWINGTON. SON HENRY ALEXANDER BRAGG
« Reply #35 on: Tuesday 27 September 22 21:12 BST (UK) »
Thank you John

Yes I ought to have a pop at the pdf, not so bad to lose £7 , the only thing I need is who registered her and then follow on from there

William in the son of my Edward but shown  as MMN  Phillips,  I suppose I can understand    that the O was seen as an S  but it is annoying, only a few registered, her marriage cert is definitely Phillippo

Thank you John, , much appreciated

LM
Census information is Crown Copyright,
from  www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

Granath Sweden and London
Garner, Marylebone Paddington  Northolt Ilford
Garner, Devon
Garner New Zealand
Maddieson
Parkinson St Pancras,
Jenkins Marylebone Paddington
Mizon/Mison/Myson Paddington
Tindal Marylebone Paddington
Tocock, (name changed to Ellis) London
Southam Marylebone, Paddington
Bragg Lambeth 1800's
Edermaniger(Maniger) Essex Kent Canada (Toronto)
Coveney Kent Lambeth
Sondes kent and London