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Re: 1864 death & burial, dates confusion, suggestions for reasons welcome
« Reply #18 on: Monday 16 April 18 18:14 BST (UK) »
And the death cert
Newson, Steavenson, Walker, Taylor, Dobson, Gardner, Clark, Wilson, Smith, Crossland, Goldfinch, Burnett, Hebdon, Peers, Strother, Askew, Bower, Beckwith, Patton, White, Turner, Nelson, Gilpin, Tomlinson, Thompson, Spedding, Wilkes, Carr, Butterfield, Ormandy, Wilkinson, Cocking, Glover, Pennington, Bowker, Kitching, Langhorn, Haworth, Kirkham.

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Re: 1864 death & burial, dates confusion, suggestions for reasons welcome
« Reply #19 on: Monday 16 April 18 18:47 BST (UK) »
Oh, and I have visited the graveyard and if there ever were headstones for these burials, they haven't survived :(
Newson, Steavenson, Walker, Taylor, Dobson, Gardner, Clark, Wilson, Smith, Crossland, Goldfinch, Burnett, Hebdon, Peers, Strother, Askew, Bower, Beckwith, Patton, White, Turner, Nelson, Gilpin, Tomlinson, Thompson, Spedding, Wilkes, Carr, Butterfield, Ormandy, Wilkinson, Cocking, Glover, Pennington, Bowker, Kitching, Langhorn, Haworth, Kirkham.

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Re: 1864 death & burial, dates confusion, suggestions for reasons welcome
« Reply #20 on: Monday 16 April 18 18:50 BST (UK) »
I wouldn't have expected a headstone - much more important things to spend the money on - like family.

Transcriptions and NBI are merely finding aids.  They are NOT a substitute for original record entries.
Remember - "They'll be found when they want to be found" !!!
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Re: 1864 death & burial, dates confusion, suggestions for reasons welcome
« Reply #21 on: Tuesday 17 April 18 04:19 BST (UK) »
Quote from: cristeen on Monday 16 April 18 18:14 BST (UK)
Couldn't get them all on the same post!

That is an amazing funeral card for the family to have retained. Thank you for sharing.

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Re: 1864 death & burial, dates confusion, suggestions for reasons welcome
« Reply #22 on: Tuesday 17 April 18 18:45 BST (UK) »
Surely they must have been mixed up

If she died 3rd/5th September of childbed fever of 1 week then the baby was born the end of August - this fits in with the baptism which states born 25th August

If the baby is then buried on 6th September she's not anywhere near a month old (whereas if she was buried 24th September she would be almost a month old at her death)

Mother and baby both dying within a certain period of birth is one of the few reasons why they can share a casket (twins under a certain age is another)

I wonder if it could even be something along the lines of the mother was buried 6th September and then they put the baby in with her and REBURIED on the 24th

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Re: 1864 death & burial, dates confusion, suggestions for reasons welcome
« Reply #23 on: Tuesday 17 April 18 20:00 BST (UK) »
Quote from: Westward on Tuesday 17 April 18 04:19 BST (UK)
That is an amazing funeral card for the family to have retained. Thank you for sharing.

I count myself lucky to have such things :)
Newson, Steavenson, Walker, Taylor, Dobson, Gardner, Clark, Wilson, Smith, Crossland, Goldfinch, Burnett, Hebdon, Peers, Strother, Askew, Bower, Beckwith, Patton, White, Turner, Nelson, Gilpin, Tomlinson, Thompson, Spedding, Wilkes, Carr, Butterfield, Ormandy, Wilkinson, Cocking, Glover, Pennington, Bowker, Kitching, Langhorn, Haworth, Kirkham.

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Re: 1864 death & burial, dates confusion, suggestions for reasons welcome
« Reply #24 on: Tuesday 17 April 18 20:01 BST (UK) »
Quote from: iolaus on Tuesday 17 April 18 18:45 BST (UK)
Surely they must have been mixed up

If she died 3rd/5th September of childbed fever of 1 week then the baby was born the end of August - this fits in with the baptism which states born 25th August

If the baby is then buried on 6th September she's not anywhere near a month old (whereas if she was buried 24th September she would be almost a month old at her death)

Mother and baby both dying within a certain period of birth is one of the few reasons why they can share a casket (twins under a certain age is another)

I wonder if it could even be something along the lines of the mother was buried 6th September and then they put the baby in with her and REBURIED on the 24th
Thanks for your thoughts iolaus. It is certainly looking like that may have happened, I will post when I get baby Jane's death cert :)
Newson, Steavenson, Walker, Taylor, Dobson, Gardner, Clark, Wilson, Smith, Crossland, Goldfinch, Burnett, Hebdon, Peers, Strother, Askew, Bower, Beckwith, Patton, White, Turner, Nelson, Gilpin, Tomlinson, Thompson, Spedding, Wilkes, Carr, Butterfield, Ormandy, Wilkinson, Cocking, Glover, Pennington, Bowker, Kitching, Langhorn, Haworth, Kirkham.

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Re: 1864 death & burial, dates confusion, suggestions for reasons welcome
« Reply #25 on: Monday 23 April 18 11:34 BST (UK) »
So as suspected, the two Janes had their burial dates muddled :)
Infant Jane died on 23rd September and was registered on 30th
Thank you all for the suggestions & prompting to buy the death certs!
Newson, Steavenson, Walker, Taylor, Dobson, Gardner, Clark, Wilson, Smith, Crossland, Goldfinch, Burnett, Hebdon, Peers, Strother, Askew, Bower, Beckwith, Patton, White, Turner, Nelson, Gilpin, Tomlinson, Thompson, Spedding, Wilkes, Carr, Butterfield, Ormandy, Wilkinson, Cocking, Glover, Pennington, Bowker, Kitching, Langhorn, Haworth, Kirkham.
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