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Offline heywood

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Re: Searching for a birth record
« Reply #9 on: Tuesday 17 April 18 10:37 BST (UK) »
its there alright left hand page
https://registers.nli.ie/registers/vtls000635098#page/31/mode/1up

 thanks dathai  :)
Now the index shows December 1881 but the register seems to show differently - it is December 1880 at the top of the page.
It looks as though it is February - what do you think?
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Re: Searching for a birth record
« Reply #10 on: Tuesday 17 April 18 10:45 BST (UK) »
Yes looks like 20th Feb 1881

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Re: Searching for a birth record
« Reply #11 on: Tuesday 17 April 18 10:46 BST (UK) »
The baptisms shown above and below Anne are registered - Bridget Comasky; Bernard Crosby and Joseph Toole.
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Re: Searching for a birth record
« Reply #12 on: Tuesday 17 April 18 16:41 BST (UK) »
Ancestry baptism indexes is showing

Anne Marshall baptised 20 December 1881 Castletown-Geoghegan, Westmeath
Parents Joseph Marshall and Bridget Baker


This would seem to be Anne but wrong name transcribed or entered on the register. Unfortunately, the registers do not go to December 1881 unless the pages are out of order.
https://registers.nli.ie/parishes/0913

The 1901 census return for Joseph MAHER and his family at 29 Clonthage given earlier matches to

Joseph MAHER m Bridget BAKER Sep 11 1885

Children:
John bap Jan 10 1877 - on 1901 census
Mary bap Feb 02 1879 - on 1901 census
Anne bap Feb 20 1881
Joseph bap Apr 8 1883 m Bridget MOONEY Jun 02 1913 - on 1901 census
Elizabeth bap Aug 15 1886
Thomas bap Mar 03 1889; d. Dec 12 1889
Rose (Ann) bap Dec 25 1890 - on 1901 census
Bridget bap Apr 22 1894 - on 1901 census
James b Jul 12 1900 - on 1901 census

Although the age and spelling is out - this could be Anne in 1901 LINK

and a possibility for Elizabeth / Lillie LINK
Kearney & Bourke/ Johns & Fox/ Mannion & Finan/ Donohoe & Curley
Byrne [Carthy], Keeffe/ Germaine, Butler/ McDermott, Giblin/ Lally, Dolan
Toole, Doran; Dowling, Grogan/ Reilly, Burke; Warren, Kidd [Lawless]/ Smith, Scally; Mangan, Rodgers/ Fahy, Calday; Staunton, Miller
Further generations:
Brophy Coleman Eathorn(e) Fahy Fitzpatrick Geraghty Haverty Keane Keogh Nowlan Rowe Walder

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Re: Searching for a birth record
« Reply #13 on: Wednesday 18 April 18 02:53 BST (UK) »
This looks like John and Anne Deane in 1911

http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Wicklow/Bray_No__2/Sidmonton_Terrace/892124/

Thank you, That's definitely them. Bridget J was my grandmother
County Westmeath: O'Neill, Deane, Maher, Jessop

Dublin: Donegan, Brennan,

Ireland & Scotland: Keenan

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Re: Searching for a birth record
« Reply #14 on: Wednesday 18 April 18 03:21 BST (UK) »
Thanks for trying to help me. I'm lost from reply #7 onwards. I've been working on the Maher side for quiet a while now and can't work it out. The experts on this site normally lead me down the right path, but if it has you guys  stumped then I may just have to put the 'Mahers' to one side for a while. Thanks again for your time and effort.
County Westmeath: O'Neill, Deane, Maher, Jessop

Dublin: Donegan, Brennan,

Ireland & Scotland: Keenan

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Re: Searching for a birth record
« Reply #15 on: Wednesday 18 April 18 06:49 BST (UK) »
Oh dear and I thought we had done very well but we are not experts  :)

In summary:

There are transcriptions and links to your family 1901 and 1911 indexes.
Some of the ages donít match for some reason.

Some births can be found - Irish Genealogy site  but not your Anne.
There is however a baptism for Anne as Anne Marshall which seems to be Anne - February 1881. This is presumably an error.

Other children whose baptisms were performed at similar times to Anneís have been registered though, so this would indicate that the civil records are not missing and perhaps Anne was not registered.

I wondered if the witness, Lillie Maher ( to the two marriages, Anneís and Roseís )  is Elizabeth - a pet name.

Myluck has linked to likely persons for Elizabeth and Anne who are missing from the family in 1901.

The 1911 family is the puzzling one as it has Anne when she is married and elsewhere and also Roseís age is wrong but this could be just an error on Bridgetís part. She didnít complete the form herself and perhaps just told the enumerator those names  :-\

Is this summary any clearer?
 There is a baptism record for Anne but not a civil birth. (Not found anyway).

Regards
Heywood
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Re: Searching for a birth record
« Reply #16 on: Wednesday 18 April 18 09:23 BST (UK) »
Oh yes you all have done extremely well, and Iím very grateful (sorry if I sounded ungrateful) I turn to this site when Iím really stuck because you are all experts in my eyes. Thank you for making things clearer for me, Iíll go through all the replies and keep working on it. Thanks again everyone
County Westmeath: O'Neill, Deane, Maher, Jessop

Dublin: Donegan, Brennan,

Ireland & Scotland: Keenan

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Re: Searching for a birth record
« Reply #17 on: Wednesday 18 April 18 09:55 BST (UK) »
Thanks for trying to help me. I'm lost from reply #7 onwards. I've been working on the Maher side for quiet a while now and can't work it out. The experts on this site normally lead me down the right path, but if it has you guys  stumped then I may just have to put the 'Mahers' to one side for a while. Thanks again for your time and effort.

I don't think anyone is stumped!