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Suspicious death
« on: Tuesday 17 April 18 15:28 BST (UK) »
I have a Gordon Kinlock Williams, son of Edward Thomas Williams and Barbara Jane Kinlock, born on the 22 February 1885 in Victoria, and baptised on 18 May at Moorooduc. He then appears in the electoral roll for 1949-1954 in Croydon East at at 95 Milton Street, Ashfield, NSW, and the from 1958 to 1977 he's at 20 Paton Street, Woy Woy, although Kinlock is spelled Kinloch.

So, how to explain this death index entry:

Name:          Gordon Rknlook Williams
Birth Year:       abt 1885
Age:                  9
Death Place:       Pt Nepean, Victoria
Father's name:       Edwd Thos
Mother's name:       Barbara Kinlook
Registration Year:    1894
Registration Place:    Victoria
Registration Number:    14568

There's clearly a typo in a couple of the names, but the other details seem to match. Was there possibly a second child of the same name?

Puzzled  :-\
Anderson - Leics., Yorks.; Attwood - Worcs., Staffs.,  Salop; Baylis - Worcs.; Beach/Bache - Worcs., Staffs., Salop; Bills - Devon, Worcs.
Dovey - Worcs., Staff., Salop; Gill - Worcs.; Hampton - Worcs., Staffs.; Hancox/Hancocks - Worcs., Staffs.
Hill - Worcs., Staffs., Salop; Sherwood - Worcs., Staffs.; Stonyer - Worcs., Staff., Salop, Essex
Woodall - Worcs., Staffs.; Potter - Essex.

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Re: Suspicious death
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 17 April 18 15:48 BST (UK) »
8166/1986 WILLIAMS GORDON KINLOCK parents JAMES NEPEAN and ILMA VAUGHAN

WILLIAMS Gordon Kimlock Death notice 7-4-1986 Death 61 late of Eastwood Sydney Morning Herald 9-4-1986

Notice only says died suddenly, privately cremated.

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Re: Suspicious death
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 17 April 18 15:52 BST (UK) »
Marriage NSW:

12435/1919 WILLIAMS James N to GIMBERT Ilma CANTERBURY

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Re: Suspicious death
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 17 April 18 16:03 BST (UK) »
Mystery solved:

1224/1971 WILLIAMS James Nepean parents EDWARD THOMAS and BARBARA SYDNEY

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Re: Suspicious death
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 17 April 18 16:05 BST (UK) »
Hmm..

Starts to make sense - James Nepean was Gordon's brother. I've only got one child for James and Ilma, a Kevin James Nepean Williams, so I've missed their son Gordon somewhere along the line, who would likely be named after James' brother. It must be him that I've got the later records for. Gordon the younger had a son, too, James Stanley Williams, so I've some re-arranging to do :)
Anderson - Leics., Yorks.; Attwood - Worcs., Staffs.,  Salop; Baylis - Worcs.; Beach/Bache - Worcs., Staffs., Salop; Bills - Devon, Worcs.
Dovey - Worcs., Staff., Salop; Gill - Worcs.; Hampton - Worcs., Staffs.; Hancox/Hancocks - Worcs., Staffs.
Hill - Worcs., Staffs., Salop; Sherwood - Worcs., Staffs.; Stonyer - Worcs., Staff., Salop, Essex
Woodall - Worcs., Staffs.; Potter - Essex.

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Re: Suspicious death
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 17 April 18 16:15 BST (UK) »
Just to confuse matters, there's another Gordon Kinlock Williams, born and died in 1911, to Albert Edward Williams and his wife Madelaine Blanche, nee Young!

I checked the NSW BMDs for James' son Gordon but couldn't find him :( presumably I need to wait until next year, or the year after that, ...
Anderson - Leics., Yorks.; Attwood - Worcs., Staffs.,  Salop; Baylis - Worcs.; Beach/Bache - Worcs., Staffs., Salop; Bills - Devon, Worcs.
Dovey - Worcs., Staff., Salop; Gill - Worcs.; Hampton - Worcs., Staffs.; Hancox/Hancocks - Worcs., Staffs.
Hill - Worcs., Staffs., Salop; Sherwood - Worcs., Staffs.; Stonyer - Worcs., Staff., Salop, Essex
Woodall - Worcs., Staffs.; Potter - Essex.

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Re: Suspicious death
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 17 April 18 16:17 BST (UK) »
25916/1958 WILLIAMS KEVIN JAMES N parents JAMES NEPEAN and ILMA SYDNEY

WILLIAMS Kevin James Nepean Death notice 12-10-1958 Death 37 late of Beverly Hills Sydney Morning Herald 14-10-1958

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« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 17 April 18 16:19 BST (UK) »
NSW births only go up to April 2018.

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« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 17 April 18 16:26 BST (UK) »
21409/1968 WILLIAMS Albert Edward parents EDWARD THOMAS and BARBARA JANE NEWTOWN

WILLIAMS Albert Edward Death notice 26-5-1968 Death 81 late of Marrickville Sydney Morning Herald 28-5-1968   

If this is his notice it says his wife is Violet, page 1: https://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=lL5f5cZgq8MC&dat=19680528&printsec=frontpage&hl=en

So, brother of James Nepean.

WILLIAMS   Madeline Blanche Death notice 15-5-1978 Death late of Marrickville Sydney Morning Herald 16-5-1978   

Scroll to page 18: https://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=lL5f5cZgq8MC&dat=19780516&printsec=frontpage&hl=en

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