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Re: Suspicious death
« Reply #18 on: Monday 21 May 18 20:55 BST (UK) »
Hi majm

Yes, I've been given lots of information, which I have beavering away following up, and in the process, discovering the Brown family in the UK, not in Bedfordshire as the obituary for Samuel Brown suggests, or Huntingdon as stated on his death registration, but Cambridgeshire.

I had already discovered the passenger lists with Honora and Anastasia Hanlon on them:

1864 NSW Immigration record: Honora and Anastasia Hanlon.
The transcript of the records is as follows:

Certificate Numbers:   1913, 1914
Deposit Number:      1307
Name of Depositor:      Redmond Hanlon
Date of deposit:      January 19 (1864)

Despription of person for whose benefit the remittance is made:

Christian name and surname at full length:      Honora Hanlon,         Anastasia Hanlon
Age:                  19,            17
Whether husband or wife resident in the colony:
Trade or calling:               Servant,            Servant
Whether living in Great Britain or Ireland:      Gowring, Co Kilkenny, Ireland
Name and Address of some person of note
to whom reference can be made respecting
the Immigrants:               Parish Priest, "Gowring"
Proportion to be applied to the passage:      £4/0/0            £4/0/0
Proportion to be applied towards Outfit:
Total:                  £4/0/0            £4/0/0
Irish:                  2
Remarks:                  "Morning Star"

Honora and Anastasia are both listed on the passenger manifest of the Morning Star, arriving on 3 September 1864, although the ages do not tally: Honora is listed as being 27, and Anastasia as 19. Both are listed as Laundresses from Garren, Kilkenny, both are Roman Catholic, and both can read and write.

Anastasia possibly never married. There is a burial recorded for an Anastasia Hanlon, who died on 4 July 1888 aged 44 and is buried at the Rookwood Catholic Cemetery, Rookwood, Auburn City, NSW, Plot: Section M1, Row F, Plot 452.

From Honora's death registration I know that her father's name was Martin, but that's the limit of the information. Her sponsor, if the immigration records refer to her, was a Redmond Hanlon, but I have no further information about him.

I don't yet have a full transcription for Honora's marriage to Samuel, so I suppose that's the next step. A transcript for Anastasia's death might also be illuminating.

Clearly, in Honora's case, there's still a lot to do discover her roots!

Anderson - Leics., Yorks.; Attwood - Worcs., Staffs.,  Salop; Baylis - Worcs.; Beach/Bache - Worcs., Staffs., Salop; Bills - Devon, Worcs.<br />Dovey - Worcs., Staff., Salop; Gill - Worcs.; Hampton - Worcs., Staffs.; Hancox/Hancocks - Worcs., Staffs.<br />Hill - Worcs., Staffs., Salop; Sherwood - Worcs., Staffs.; Stonyer - Worcs., Staff., Salop, Essex<br />Woodall - Worcs., Staffs.; Potter - Essex.

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Re: Suspicious death
« Reply #19 on: Tuesday 22 May 18 02:56 BST (UK) »
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Anastasia possibly never married. There is a burial recorded for an Anastasia Hanlon, who died on 4 July 1888 aged 44 and is buried at the Rookwood Catholic Cemetery, Rookwood, Auburn City, NSW, Plot: Section M1, Row F, Plot 452.

From Honora's death registration I know that her father's name was Martin, but that's the limit of the information. Her sponsor, if the immigration records refer to her, was a Redmond Hanlon, but I have no further information about him.

I don't yet have a full transcription for Honora's marriage to Samuel, so I suppose that's the next step. A transcript for Anastasia's death might also be illuminating.
.....

Some thoughts  :)

Anastasia

That 1888 death for Anastasia HANLON is noted in the newspapers which are free to search at Trove.  She was a married woman, her husband was John HANLON.  Here is the funeral announcement.  Notice the funeral moves from Miler’s Point.  That is a locality within the City of Sydney.  https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/13690457  SMH 4 July 1888

The NSW BDM online index shows the death as occurring in Sydney and being registered in the NSW BDM's Sydney district. (so quite a small geographical area)   Here is the reference no. #1182. The index has her death as 3 July 1888. 

Trove is free to search : https://trove.nla.gov.au/
NSW BDM online index is free to search http://www.bdm.nsw.gov.au/Pages/family-history/tracing-your-family-tree.aspx Official transcriptions are recognised by family history groups as a good alternative to the expensive certified copies.  NSW BDM info about their official transcription agents is at that link and also at Rchat’s resources links.
 http://www.rootschat.com/forum/australia-resources-offers/
and
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,300394.0.html


Honora

You may find there’s elusive blanks on the NSW summary of the 1880 marriage of Samuel and Honora.  Here is a now lengthy thread I did up to help other RChatters overcome those blanks. http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=546609.0

Honora’s death cert (official transcription) should give you info about “how long in the colonies”, her children, her marriage, as well as info about her origins.  Informant driven info of course, so it is dependent on the informant’s own knowledge. 


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