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1861 Census - Holywell, Flints: Peter Davies (shoemaker) AND son Edward
« on: Thursday 19 April 18 03:22 BST (UK) »
Could some kind person please help me find Peter Davies (shoemaker),1810-82 and family in the 1861 Census for Holywell; also his son Edward (1837-85) and family?

The 1851 has Peter and wife Ann at Bagillt Street, Holywell, Flintshire, Wales, with children and lodgers: Entry 165. Head, married, aged 41, shoemaker, b. Holywell, Flintshire. Living with wife, 3 sons, 3 daughters, and 4 lodgers (David Davies, 21, shoemaker; Catherine Isaac, 29; John Isaac, 1; & Ann & Mary Davies, 42 & 41). Ref. HO/107/2500/50/p.337

The 1871 has the family at Battery Row, Greenfield, Holywell, Flintshire, Wales:
Schedule 222. Head, married, aged 61, shoemaker, b. Holywell, Flintshire. Living with wife, 1 son, 1 daughter, 1 granddaughter (Ellen Jones), and a lodger. Ref. RG10/5641/54/p.40

... but I cannot find them in the 1861.

Same with son Edward Davies (1837-1885) and family. Edward married Ann Lee 11 Oct 1856: No. 475, p. 238.Edward Davies (under age bachelor labourer Bagilt St son of Peter Davies shoemaker) & Ann Lee (full age spinster Penyball St, d of Hugh Lee miner).

By 1861, they had a son Robert (1858-1913) and daughter Ann Jane (1860-1911).

In the 1871, they are at Battery Row, Greenfield, Holywell, Flintshire, Wales: Schedule 223. Head, married, aged 36, labourer, b. Holywell. Living with wife, 3 sons, and a daughter, next door to father and mother. Ref. RG10/5641/54/p. 40

But, again, I cannot find them in 1861?

Is this part of the census missing, perhaps?

Many thanks and best wishes

John

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Re: 1861 Census - Holywell, Flints: Peter Davies (shoemaker) AND son Edward
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 19 April 18 08:09 BST (UK) »
Yes john there are parts of the 1861 Census for the Bagillt and Greenfield areas in he Holywell District that are missing.I've found this in the case of relatives of mine in these areas.

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Jones, Griffiths. Stephens, Parry, Gabriel, Conway, Hughes, Evans, Roberts, Lea, Hanmer. Peake, Edwards. Newnes, Davies. Thomas. "Blythin".
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Re: 1861 Census - Holywell, Flints: Peter Davies (shoemaker) AND son Edward
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 19 April 18 08:20 BST (UK) »
As WR says, a considerable part of Flintshire is missing from the 1861. Scroll down this listing to see which pieces are missing:

https://www.findmypast.co.uk/articles/world-records/full-list-of-united-kingdom-records/census-land-and-surveys/1861-england-wales-and-scotland-census


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Re: 1861 Census - Holywell, Flints: Peter Davies (shoemaker) AND son Edward
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 19 April 18 13:52 BST (UK) »
Many thanks to both. I can now abandon my fruitless search.

Best wishes

John
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