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Re: Deceased uncle hospitalisation
« Reply #9 on: Thursday 19 April 18 14:55 BST (UK) »
Hefferan is certainly what is clearly written on her marriage record, but not unusual for names to 'change' slightly over the years (especially if said by an Irish person but written, for example, by an English person).

Her husband looks to have been born in Kilrush, County Clare on 4/3/1893. His father, Charles George Wheeler, a soldier,  had an address at the time of Spike Island, County Cork. Mother was Mary Ann Keane. Certainly, there was a Patrick, with this birth date, living in the Surrey area in the right timescale for your Grandad. Again, the 1893 birth certificate is available free at the site I posted a link for earlier.
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Re: Deceased uncle hospitalisation
« Reply #10 on: Thursday 19 April 18 14:58 BST (UK) »
Hefferan is certainly what is clearly written on her marriage record, but not unusual for names to 'change' slightly over the years.

That's what I thought too, still means fixing the tree I've got though  :(
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Re: Deceased uncle hospitalisation
« Reply #11 on: Thursday 19 April 18 15:05 BST (UK) »
You can read about Spike Island here:

https://www.spikeislandcork.ie/discover/fort-mitchel

Patrick and his parents/siblings at 1901:

http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Cork/Corkbeg/Whitegate/1131709/

His brother, Charles, also later lived in England.
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Re: Deceased uncle hospitalisation
« Reply #12 on: Thursday 19 April 18 15:06 BST (UK) »
Thank you!
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Re: Deceased uncle hospitalisation
« Reply #13 on: Thursday 19 April 18 15:10 BST (UK) »
Charles senior, who was English born, seems to have left the army by 1911:

http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Cork/Fermoy_Urban/Chapel_Square/412863/

and some of the younger children were born in England.
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Re: Deceased uncle hospitalisation
« Reply #14 on: Thursday 19 April 18 15:12 BST (UK) »
Charles senior seems to have left the army by 1911:

http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Cork/Fermoy_Urban/Chapel_Square/412863/

Good Catholic family, lots of kids! Don't know how I'd cope with an 18 year age gap!
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Re: Deceased uncle hospitalisation
« Reply #15 on: Thursday 19 April 18 15:16 BST (UK) »
Hefferan is certainly what is clearly written on her marriage record, but not unusual for names to 'change' slightly over the years.

That's what I thought too, still means fixing the tree I've got though  :(

Even in Ireland, though, both Heffernan and Hefferan surnames were in use by people, so it could still be either/or.
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Re: Deceased uncle hospitalisation
« Reply #16 on: Thursday 19 April 18 15:20 BST (UK) »
Based only on Fermoy and Margaret stating her father, John, was a painter, this could be her with him and her mum/siblings at 1911:

http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Cork/Fermoy_Urban/William_Street/413651/

Unfortunately, she is only listed as 'full age' on her marriage, but perhaps you know her date/year if birth to see if this is likely.

Note that the spelling is Heffernan.
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Re: Deceased uncle hospitalisation
« Reply #17 on: Thursday 19 April 18 15:22 BST (UK) »
Even in Ireland, though, both Heffernan and Hefferan surnames were in use by people, so it could still be either/or.

Just found my Nan's birth record, her parents are recorded as HEFFERNAN so it looks like you're right. How hard do they want to make it??
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Looking into my adoptive family roots:- Clark -  England,
Heffernan - ROI & Australia,
Kempton - UK & NZ,
Handy - UK
Genealogy for a friend:-
Goldsmith - south east England