Agnes MacClounan

[DeafDoggy488]

HI all,

I'm looking through my Maternal side of family tree, starting from my late grandfather James Weir to his Great Great Grandmother- Agnes MacClounan. However, I'm stuck at Agnes, mostly due to the fact that she has one of the most unusual surname with many variations!

She married a Robert Gray in Monkton, in 1826 and had 9 children with him, including Isabella who's my 3x Great grandmother (born in 1837).

Isabella married a Robert Paton in 1862 and had my 2x Great grandmother, Elizabeth Paton in 1865. Elizabeth then married James Weir in 1893. They had  my Great grandfather, James in1896.

All of these events took place in Ayrshire with exception of my grandfather who was born in dumfries and galloway. But I am struggling with Agnes and if anyone can suggest what kind of surname she might have that I could use in my search. There's no info on her death date which means it's rather difficult to narrow down her identity.

[CaroleW]

There's no info on her death date

What is the last census you have found her on?  Have you looked on SP from that year onwards?

What is her actual birthplace and birthyear as given on the census entries?

[CaroleW]

Is she the 1851 entry spelt Agness aged 47 and b Straiton?  Or is she the one b 1804 Newton?

[goldie61]

"She married a Robert Gray in Monkton, in 1826"

I see there are 2 entries for this marriage.
One at Monkton, and one at Symington - just 3 miles up the road according to Google maps.
Have you checked both entries in the old Parish Registers to see if there is any other information?
Presumably one is his parish, and the other hers.

Scottish Naming patterns can also help.
Do you have the parents of Robert Grey? so you can rule them out as being named after the parents of Agnes. (well, pretty much - there's always the possibility the parents of Agnes had the same names as the parents of Robert!).
I see Andrew was the first born in 1827 - presumably Robert's father?
The first girl born SHOULD be named after Agnes's mother.

[CaroleW]

Married 1826 - child Janet born 1848.  1851 entry for Janet shows Agnes as the Agness b 1804 Straiton.

EDIT

She was still alive in 1861 but birthyear 1810

[DeafDoggy488]

Is she the 1851 entry spelt Agness aged 47 and b Straiton?  Or is she the one b 1804 Newton?

I've got a feeling that the correct one is the Agnes who was born in Straiton in 1804. Looked for a birth record from that time but no luck

[CaroleW]

See my edit above

[CaroleW]

Can't see her in 1871 so you need to look for a death 1861-1871

They were living in the Monkton and Prestwick registration district in 1861

[DeafDoggy488]

"She married a Robert Gray in Monkton, in 1826"

I see there are 2 entries for this marriage.
One at Monkton, and one at Symington - just 3 miles up the road according to Google maps.
Have you checked both entries in the old Parish Registers to see if there is any other information?
Presumably one is his parish, and the other hers.

Scottish Naming patterns can also help.
Do you have the parents of Robert Grey? so you can rule them out as being named after the parents of Agnes. (well, pretty much - there's always the possibility the parents of Agnes had the same names as the parents of Robert!).
I see Andrew was the first born in 1827 - presumably Robert's father?
The first girl born SHOULD be named after Agnes's mother.

Checked both marriage entries for Symington and Monkton. They both are for same people and like you said, they could have got married in Monkton and did the same in Symington. I don't have the names for Robert Gray's parents either.