James McConnell & Anne Murray , Comber

[loobylooayr]

Hi,

First time posting on Ireland boards 

I am looking for any information (or any hints on where to find info)  on James Kennedy McConnell, son of John McConnell, & Anne Murray who marry in Comber 1st Feb 1860, please.
I believe this entry on Ros Davies, County Down, Northern Ireland FH Research site relates to the same couple
Bangor & Newtownards
James
McConnell
of Granshaw; husband of Annie Murray; father of Mary Ann b. 25/ 30 & bpt. 2 Jul Apr 1868 at 1st Newtownards Presbyterian Church & Alexander b. 16 Jul 1870

My great grandfather was Alexander McConnell and his father James McConnell would be my 2xgreat grandfather. I know the family (or part of the family) moved to Scotland and have all records from there.
I'm just trying to establish roots in Comber
Thanks for reading

Looby

[myluck!]

This is the birth record of Alexander McCONNELL in 1870 LINK #380 second row

Mary Ann McCONNELL in 1868 LINK #418 fifth row

There is a CoI baptism in Drumhirk, Comber on Nov 10 1861 for a John McCONNELL
Father James McCONNELL and mother Annie (MN not given)
with a note that the child was born in July 1861
This was before civil records

Within your post you refer to
"James Kennedy McConnell, son of John McConnell, & Anne Murray who marry in Comber 1st Feb 1860"
and
"James McConnell of Granshaw; husband of Annie Murray; father of Mary Ann b. 25/ 30 & bpt. 2 Jul Apr 1868 at 1st Newtownards Presbyterian Church & Alexander b. 16 Jul 1870"

Do you think these are two different couples or is there a typo?

[myluck!]

James McCONNELL and Annie MURRAY also had at least two other daughters

Elizabeth LINK in 1866 #62 third row

Ellen LINK in 1866 #79 third row

Isabella
LINK in 1872 #178

[sam.b]

Just bear in mind that there is two Granshaw's One on the outskirts of Comber, and another one in the Bangor/Newtownards area.
so the entry from"myluck" may be correct, they may be two different couples ?

[loobylooayr]

Within your post you refer to
"James Kennedy McConnell, son of John McConnell, & Anne Murray who marry in Comber 1st Feb 1860"
and
"James McConnell of Granshaw; husband of Annie Murray; father of Mary Ann b. 25/ 30 & bpt. 2 Jul Apr 1868 at 1st Newtownards Presbyterian Church & Alexander b. 16 Jul 1870"

Do you think these are two different couples or is there a typo?

Hello ,

and thank you myluck  for your replies and info.
Thanks too to sam barry for your help.

I perhaps phrased my request clumsily -
I have found a mention on Ros Davies site of a marriage on 1st Feb 1860 at Comber of a James Kennedy McConnell (son of John McConnell) to an Anne Murray .
Then I noticed the reference to
"James McConnell of Granshaw; husband of Annie Murray; father of Mary Ann b. 25/ 30 & bpt. 2 Jul Apr 1868 at 1st Newtownards Presbyterian Church & Alexander b. 16 Jul 1870"   
I wondered if these were the same couple? And I wasn't sure where Granshaw was?

My great grandfather Alexander McConnell died in Ayrshire, Scotland 10 July 1956......he is recorded as being 85 years old and his parents were James McConnell and Annie McConnell m.s. Murray.

Looby

[myluck!]

The 1870 birth record I gave a link to for Alexander McCONNELL states he was born in Granshaw in the Bangor District.

This is not a district I am familiar with and you would need someone with more local knowledge to clarify its position to Comber etc.  Looking at a map it seems not far west of the town.

[loobylooayr]

Thank you for that birth link and for the others relating to all the girls, myluck. I feel sure this is my great grandfather who did (according to relatives) have a lot of sisters and only one brother .

Perhaps the location of Comber is not the right one....I assumed from the marriage that these were the same people referred to with the births at Granshaw....although they still could be - the family could have moved location after the marriage.

Looby

[aghadowey]

This shows all the Granshas in Ireland. There is one in Comber Civil Parish-
https://www.townlands.ie/down/castlereagh-lower/comber-castlereagh-lower-portion/gransha/
This one is just outside Bangor-
https://www.townlands.ie/down/ards-lower/bangor/gransha/

Remember that marriages usually take place in the bride's church and that after the wedding the couple usually attended the husband's church.

[loobylooayr]

Thank you aghadowey.
So the marriage would take place in a church? In fact, two churches if they went to groom's church too. (I'm too used to Scottish marriages taking place at home or on farms)

So could you tell me please is Granshaw /Gransha a village or and area of a town?
Please excuse my ignorance, but I'm not sure what the term "townland" actually means.* must Google it.

Looby