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Re: What became of Emma Senior - born 1851?
« Reply #27 on: Sunday 29 April 18 13:54 BST (UK) »
I have just checked the GRO records for the son of latter Margaret Grieveson mentioned earlier in the post.

His name appears to have been Henry John Grieveson if he is the one who was born in Gateshead in 1854.  Mother's maiden name is given as Dodds.

I believe Edward Senior's wife's Mother was called Mary Dodds before she married William Innis.

So there could be something in Margaret Grieveson having been a relation on the female side. :)
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Re: What became of Emma Senior - born 1851?
« Reply #28 on: Sunday 29 April 18 14:21 BST (UK) »
Looking on freebmd I think George Gill (Margaret Grieveson's) son-in-law probably married Mary Jane Grieveson in 1869 in Gateshead.  Perhaps this is her daughter Minnie on the census in 1871.

When I get time I think I will have to look for this marriage to find who her Father was and who Margaret's husband was. 

I can't find Minnie's birth though.  Suppose one option is Margaret may have married twice.
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Re: What became of Emma Senior - born 1851?
« Reply #29 on: Sunday 29 April 18 16:19 BST (UK) »
Yes, Margaret Grieveson is with George and Mary Jane Gill in 1881.

Tricky to find before 1871.

I think this child may be a clue (for reasons I will explain in the next post):

Thomas Weatherburn Grieveson, born 3 Apr 1857 and baptised 20 May 1857 Gateshead.

Parents: Robert and Margaret Grieveson.
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

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Re: What became of Emma Senior - born 1851?
« Reply #30 on: Sunday 29 April 18 16:24 BST (UK) »
The reason I think Thomas Weatherburn Grieveson is key is because of this possible baptism for Margaret:

Margaret Dodds, born 3 Oct 1821 and baptised 28 Oct 1821 Gateshead.

Parents: Thomas Weatherburn Dodds & Jane.
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)


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Re: What became of Emma Senior - born 1851?
« Reply #31 on: Sunday 29 April 18 16:30 BST (UK) »
Thomas Wetherburn Grieveson (an actor) married Mary Brown in London in 1883, naming his father as Robert Grieveson, publican, deceased.
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

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Re: What became of Emma Senior - born 1851?
« Reply #32 on: Sunday 29 April 18 16:30 BST (UK) »
Yes I was thinking Mary Jane could be Minnie in which case

Birth Sep 1854 Durham from Free BMD

GRO have two births** for a Mary Jane Grieveson Sep 1854 Durham

One has MMN Walker and one has no MMN

**Correction the one with no MMN is Grievson

Hinchliffe - Huddersfield Wiltshire
Burroughs - Arlingham Glos
Pick - Frocester Glos

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Re: What became of Emma Senior - born 1851?
« Reply #33 on: Sunday 29 April 18 16:35 BST (UK) »
The death of Robert Grieveson aged 40, Mar qtr 1861 Gateshead, may be relevant.

Buried 3 Feb 1861 Gateshead.
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

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Re: What became of Emma Senior - born 1851?
« Reply #34 on: Sunday 29 April 18 16:39 BST (UK) »
Could this be anything - 1861 transcribed as Grierson

Margaret 34
Robert 12
Mary Jane 9
Joseph 7
Margaret Ann 5

Hinchliffe - Huddersfield Wiltshire
Burroughs - Arlingham Glos
Pick - Frocester Glos

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Re: What became of Emma Senior - born 1851?
« Reply #35 on: Sunday 29 April 18 16:43 BST (UK) »
Looks interesting  :)

Likely marriage:

Jun qtr 1850 Newcastle upon Tyne 25 395

Robert Grieveson
Margaret Dodds

on the same page.
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)