Are George Wrayton GRUBB & George Railton GRUBB the Same Person? HOOD links?

[BushInn1746]

Hello

Are:-
George Wrayton GRUBB (Mother TURNER, from GRO Index), Birth Registration District of Hull March Qtr 1860
and
George Railton GRUBB, Death Registration District of Hull March Qtr 1861
the Same Person?

I have a suspicion they might be the same person and very important to prove with any baptism / burial document that they are, please?

Thanks Mark

[avm228]

The 1861 death was aged 1, per GRO Online.

[avm228]

It looks overwhelmingly likely that they are one and the same.  There is no other likely birth corresponding with that death.

[avm228]

YorkshireBMD shows that the birth and the death were both registered in the Myton subdistrict of Hull.

[BushInn1746]

Thank you very much.

I did a George GRUBB search on GRO and I saw the 1861 Death entry on GRO, but missed the age at death of 1 year.

That is enough to warrant me ordering both Certificates, to investigate.

You may be about to see a 50 year family history mystery about to unfold, that I have been struggling with for about 20 years and me being able to make a first very tenuous link.

It does look like George Wrayton GRUBB (Birth 1860) and George Railton GRUBB (1 year old, Death 1861) are the same person.

I'll post below.

Mark

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Looks like he was probably a son of William and Martha, of 5 Pleasant Place, South Myton?

1861: RG9/3593/34/17 (no George as already deceased pre-census).

William Grubb married Martha Turner, Jun qtr 1850 Hull.

[avm228]

Interesting that there is a Robert Railton Grubb birth reg in Beverley in the same quarter as George’s birth reg.  Are they likely to be connected?

[BushInn1746]

Looks like he was probably a son of William and Martha, of 5 Pleasant Place, South Myton?

1861: RG9/3593/34/17 (no George as already deceased pre-census).

William Grubb married Martha Turner, Jun qtr 1850 Hull.

The Daughter of John HOOD of Selby Mariner:-
Maudland HOOD married Charles TURNER, Blacksmith, at SELBY 27th November 1794


Claire (Rootschat) has helped me from here:-

Son of Charles TURNER (Blacksmith) [& Mordland Turner (Nee HOOD) ] was Thomas TURNER born October 1802 at Selby.

Thomas TURNER born Selby 6th October 1802 address Hull when Master's Certificate was issued in 1850.

Thomas TURNER Buried Goole 19th March 1854, 52 years old, residence Wesley Square, Goole

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William GRUBB married Martha TURNER 15th April 1850 Hull
Martha Turner of Full Age, Residence Temperence Street, Father - Thomas Turner, Captain.


Son George Wrayton GRUBB born District Hull 1860 (Mother's maiden surname TURNER) -
[George Railton GRUBB died 1861 aged 1 year District Hull]

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1847, 20th September, John HOOD TURNER married Mary Grubb, Minor, Spinster, 1847 at Hull
John Hood Turner, of full age, Bachelor, Mariner, Father - Thomas Turner, Master Mariner.


1851 Census, 17 Wesley Square, Hook, Goole
John TURNER, Head, Marr, 25, Mariner, born Selby.
Mary TURNER, Wife,  Marr, 23, born Kingston upon Hull.
Mary A Turner, Dau,    Un,   2, born Kingston upon Hull.
[John Hood TURNER, born 3rd September 1825 Selby from Mate's Certificate]

1861 Park Terrace, Hook, Goole [John HOOD TURNER away at Port / Sea, separate Census sheet]
Mary TURNER, Head, Married, 33, born Hull, Yorkshire.
Mary A. TURNER, Daur,            12, born Hull, Yorkshire.
Robert Gaulb TURNER, Son,       9, born Goole, Yorkshire.
[Census transcription has error & should be Robert Grubb TURNER]


Mark

[BushInn1746]

Daughter of James MARSHALL & Clara Richardson MARSHALL (nee Clara RICHARDSON HOOD of Selby) was Evelyn HOOD MARSHALL.

The Public House & Inn of James Marshall was the Blacksmith Arms, Holme on Spalding Moor.

Evelyn HOOD MARSHALL is a descendant of a Sibling to my direct line back to John HOOD of Selby, Tanner and his Father George Hood of Selby, Cooper, Tanner & Brewer (died Selby 1845).

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Evelyn HOOD MARSHALL married Thomas GRUBB, September Quarter 1906 District - Howden.

Thomas GRUBB & Evelyn HOOD GRUBB both died at Goole (have details, but not putting too much here due to being recent)

In the 1911 Census - Goole
Thomas GRUBB, Head, Marr, 28, Dock Labourer, Middleton on Wolds, Yorkshire.
Evelyn HOOD GRUBB,  Wife, 28,                         , Holme on Spalding Moor.
2 children

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1891 Census, Lund, Yorkshire
George T GRUBB,    Head, Marr, 35, Farmer, Yorkshire [Eathorpe, Lund].
Margaret Ellen GRUBB,      Wife, 33,              Yorkshire, Driffield.
Thomas GRUBB,                Son,   7, Scholar, Yorkshire.
George GRUBB, Uncle, Widower, 60, Agric. Labourer, Yorkshire, Wold.
Thomas STEPHENSON,     Uncle, 50, Agric. Labourer, Yorkshire.

Margaret Ellen GRUBB of Holme Road, Market Weighton, Yorkshire, died in Hospital at Goole.

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George Thomas GRUBB married Margaret Ellen WILSON, 1882 District - Driffield.

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George Thomas GRUBB
7th October 1855 Lund, Near Beverley.
Father - Robert RAILTON GRUBB
Mother - Marianne

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Robert RAILTON GRUBB (Mother STEPHENSON) 1860, District Beverley.

Robert Railten GRUBB
1st June 1860
Father - Robert Railten GRUBB
Mother - Mary Ann STEPHENSON

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Perhaps you now see the relevance of my original question.

Was Maudland HOOD's descendant born 1860 George Wrayton GRUBB, or was he really named GEORGE RAILTON GRUBB (1 year old at death in 1861), because if so:-

The TURNER's of Maudland HOOD's family of Selby seem to be linked to the same GRUBB family that ...
Sarah HOOD (nee Richardson) of Selby descendants are linked to?

Mark