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Re: Ellen Goldsworthy where is she after 1901 ?
« Reply #18 on: Monday 30 April 18 14:10 BST (UK) »
Can't find Beatrice Ellen Goldsworthy  on the 1911 Wales census....


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Re: Ellen Goldsworthy where is she after 1901 ?
« Reply #19 on: Tuesday 01 May 18 10:43 BST (UK) »
First I want to thank you for your help, I am very grateful for your help and indeed any help I can get on the subject of the Goldsworthy strand on the outskirts of my family. Ellen Barclay as I said had an illegitimate daughter Mary Jane two years before she married James Kinsey. According to newspaper and court records she was imprisoned for theft. After her release she goes astray, well I can't find her.
I believe the Beatrice Ellen that you have found was possibly the daughter of Elizabeth Jennifer ...why because  Ellen by then was 48 years old  and in those times she would have been old and worn down.
I have had conversations with my wife who is a midwife who says it is very unlikely to be a mother at that age at that time. A number of years ago we had an elderly family member who had been  one of the first registered midwives ( a lady who was 103 years old ) she under the old system had to keep her own ledgers and records  which we saw and were amazed at was  the staggering level of infant and child mortality but her main point was that the number of teenage pregnancies where the mother recorded the daughters child as one of her own. She was asked frequently to record the births as so .  I could well be wrong about this but the calculator doesn't lie. I am still trying to find out what occurred between 1901 and 1932 ...my search continues. Thanks again

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Re: Ellen Goldsworthy where is she after 1901 ?
« Reply #20 on: Tuesday 01 May 18 16:52 BST (UK) »
Are the workhouse or prison records listed on the 1911 census with full names or initials - that may be where she was at some point

The records for the Pontypridd Workhouse (on the Graig) are in the Glamorgan archives - may be worth inquiring

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Re: Ellen Goldsworthy where is she after 1901 ?
« Reply #21 on: Tuesday 01 May 18 16:53 BST (UK) »
Do you have her death certificate - whats her address on that?


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Re: Ellen Goldsworthy where is she after 1901 ?
« Reply #22 on: Tuesday 01 May 18 20:34 BST (UK) »
Hi

Death cert queries asked in reply#7.
Originator is not willing to obtain certificate.

Information obtained elsewhere is not confirmable nor negatable, by us,
based upon that source.

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Re: Ellen Goldsworthy where is she after 1901 ?
« Reply #23 on: Tuesday 01 May 18 20:45 BST (UK) »
I guess I will just have to get a death cert then.