Ellen Goldsworthy where is she after 1901 ?

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The Armit birth has supprised me.
Armit sometimes written  as Harmit or Hermit..  but is in fact Armit.... is a family name in  the Barclay family going back to the 1700s. When they married into the Harrison family from  where they took it's  use.  It is also Ellen's  father's  name...in his case he was  known as Harmit.

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Back to the chase....the question is does anyone know what became of Ellen between 1901 and 1932 ?

[[Ray]]

So apart from Armit/Hermut/w.h.y., then the rest are incorrect?

You have eliminated the listed children from the list of people she could be staying with?

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I was not aware of this son that's all.

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There are only 4 children by Ellen from a Goldsworthy.  And also a missing Mary Jane Barkley who she had as a teenager by an unkown partner  ( yes I have the cert ) MJB however having completed a prison sentence in 1888 also vanishes.

[[Ray]]

As amended . . . . .


Goldsworthy named children would seem . . . . .
(various Barclay/Barcley/Berkley/Barkley mmn, Pontypridd/M.Tydfil)

*** With her in 1901 ie those left alive in 1901
*** William Joseph              Goldsworthy  ( mmn Berkley )  Merthyr     1882qJ -
*** Thomas                        Goldsworthy  ( mmn Barclay )  Pontypridd 1885qS -
*** Elizabeth Jane (Jennie?) Goldsworthy ( mmn Barclay )  Merthyr     1885qD -
Henry                                 Goldsworthy ( mmn Barkley )  Merthyr     1887qM - 1887qM
Henry                                 Goldsworthy ( mmn Barclay )  Merthyr     1888qM - 1888qd
Hermut/Hermit                    Goldsworthy ( mmn Barclay )  Merthyr     1889qS - 1890qD
Sarah                                 Goldsworthy ( mmn Berkley )  Pontypridd 1891qM - 1891qD
Sarah                                 Goldsworthy ( mmn Berkley )  Pontypridd 1893qJ - 1893qJ
*** Henry John                   Goldsworthy ( mmn Barcley )  Pontypridd 1895qJ -
Beatrice Ellen                      Goldsworthy ( mmn - )           Pontypridd 1902qS -

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Where did you get mmn ? Please PM if you wish..
All these have mmn Barclay  ?

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I am looking at the 1901 census and she is a widow with 4 children.

[[Ray]]

"Widow 1901" ?
Maybe why birth reg for Beatrice Ellen appears to be for an illegitimate child

"All these have mothers maiden name of . . . . ." different ways of spelling "Barclay"

mmn = Mothers Maiden Name

MMN comes from Gro.gov.uk
[ https://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/indexes_search.asp ]

There is no need to use PM . . . . .
They are not living, so no Rootschat rules being broken.
You need to be open about what info you have, it ALL helps.
Even the name/address of whoever registered the death of Ellen may provide something.


Ray