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Re: Henry Ruffey - Military Records
« Reply #9 on: Wednesday 02 May 18 12:09 BST (UK) »
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He should have been 71 years of age, born 1777, though.

The army pension record is obviously incorrect in that respect. It does say 61. The GRO index says 70.

When he attested in Gibraltar on 5 December 1795 he said he was 21.
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Re: Henry Ruffey - Military Records
« Reply #10 on: Wednesday 02 May 18 15:15 BST (UK) »
Not entirely impossible to find his battalion but you would need to go to Kew (and take your sandwiches  :).  He would have been entered every quarter in the battalion muster books so knowing he was with the 1st Battalion in 1815, one could start with the book for that period http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/C2464799 and then work backwards and forwards through the lists for the relevant time, they would show when he changed battalion. 
Not easy -  http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/browse/r/h/C150238
Same for the 82nd.

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Re: Henry Ruffey - Military Records
« Reply #11 on: Thursday 03 May 18 00:34 BST (UK) »
Max, thanks so much for this, but unfortunately I live in Australia, and not possible, at least I now have a bit of an idea on Henry's life, lot coming together now, as we see his grandchildren and other descendants very involved in various Wars over the years.

Shaun that's quite possible, records not very good in those days, and maybe he put his age up to go into the military.     

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New, Thorn, Bird, Ruffey, Bosley, Belcher- Newbury Berkshire
Haynes/Haines - Much Birch Herefordshire, Monmouth Wales
Kearn/Watkins- Llanllwchaiarn/Newtown, Wales, Tyberton, Herefordshire
Gwilliam - Monmouth Wales, Herefordshire
Collier, Jackson - Salford, Manchester Lancashire
Saunders - Middlesex, Devon
Benson - Edinburgh, Scotland
Callander - Falkirk, Scotland
Ambrose - Liverpool, Manchester Lancashire, Canada
Timms, Elliman - Oxfordshire, Warwickshire
Ellison - Manchester/Portsmouth Hampshir

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Re: Henry Ruffey - Military Records
« Reply #12 on: Thursday 03 May 18 00:36 BST (UK) »
So the records we already have where it is noted in London, either for his discharge from military or from hospital, maybe he was injured and finally discharged on the 18.3.1818, difficult to decipher from what is shown in the two records I have found on Ancestry.   
Maybe you have a better idea on what that record actually means. I  see H. Ruffey aged 40, P2 foot, 22 3/12 years plus 2 7/12 years, long service, shown as being 5 feet 11 3/4 inches light grey hair, he was a Tanner coming from Dannelton, Berkshire, with light grey fair.    Very difficult to read.  So how do we know that he served in the Greek Islands, I wonder?


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New, Thorn, Bird, Ruffey, Bosley, Belcher- Newbury Berkshire
Haynes/Haines - Much Birch Herefordshire, Monmouth Wales
Kearn/Watkins- Llanllwchaiarn/Newtown, Wales, Tyberton, Herefordshire
Gwilliam - Monmouth Wales, Herefordshire
Collier, Jackson - Salford, Manchester Lancashire
Saunders - Middlesex, Devon
Benson - Edinburgh, Scotland
Callander - Falkirk, Scotland
Ambrose - Liverpool, Manchester Lancashire, Canada
Timms, Elliman - Oxfordshire, Warwickshire
Ellison - Manchester/Portsmouth Hampshir

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Re: Henry Ruffey - Military Records
« Reply #13 on: Thursday 03 May 18 08:28 BST (UK) »
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So how do we know that he served in the Greek Islands, I wonder?

The December 1813 paylist for 1st Battalion confirms that he was stationed in the Ionian Islands, attached to number 3 company.

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maybe he was injured

"He was discharged from the army "in consequence of length of service".  It was a time of of major reduction in the army. 
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Re: Henry Ruffey - Military Records
« Reply #14 on: Thursday 03 May 18 09:09 BST (UK) »
Shaun, thank you for more information, so keen to find out where he served during those years.
Jan
New, Thorn, Bird, Ruffey, Bosley, Belcher- Newbury Berkshire
Haynes/Haines - Much Birch Herefordshire, Monmouth Wales
Kearn/Watkins- Llanllwchaiarn/Newtown, Wales, Tyberton, Herefordshire
Gwilliam - Monmouth Wales, Herefordshire
Collier, Jackson - Salford, Manchester Lancashire
Saunders - Middlesex, Devon
Benson - Edinburgh, Scotland
Callander - Falkirk, Scotland
Ambrose - Liverpool, Manchester Lancashire, Canada
Timms, Elliman - Oxfordshire, Warwickshire
Ellison - Manchester/Portsmouth Hampshir

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Re: Henry Ruffey - Military Records
« Reply #15 on: Thursday 03 May 18 09:11 BST (UK) »
Thanks ShaunJ for the confirmation.

I'd done that from a process of elimination.  He wasn't at Waterloo so not with 2nd Battalion, the history tells us the 1st Battalion was in the Ionian Islands at that time.  QED.

The muster books/pay lists are the only way!

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Re: Henry Ruffey - Military Records
« Reply #16 on: Thursday 03 May 18 12:07 BST (UK) »
Thanks again, both of you, getting a better picture all the time, wonder where he was in the earlier days, but as you say the Muster is the only way, unfortunately live too far away to do that.
cheers Jan
New, Thorn, Bird, Ruffey, Bosley, Belcher- Newbury Berkshire
Haynes/Haines - Much Birch Herefordshire, Monmouth Wales
Kearn/Watkins- Llanllwchaiarn/Newtown, Wales, Tyberton, Herefordshire
Gwilliam - Monmouth Wales, Herefordshire
Collier, Jackson - Salford, Manchester Lancashire
Saunders - Middlesex, Devon
Benson - Edinburgh, Scotland
Callander - Falkirk, Scotland
Ambrose - Liverpool, Manchester Lancashire, Canada
Timms, Elliman - Oxfordshire, Warwickshire
Ellison - Manchester/Portsmouth Hampshir

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Re: Henry Ruffey - Military Records
« Reply #17 on: Thursday 03 May 18 12:30 BST (UK) »
You have the links to the Regimental histories. They will tell you the movements of each battalion.
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