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Who was Rose/Rosa Crisp who married Joshua Morgan Thomas in 1890?
« on: Friday 04 May 18 05:18 BST (UK) »
I thought I'd solved this mystery, but perhaps not.
We have Rose Crisp marrying Joshua Morgan Thomas in the December quarter of 1890 in Islington.
Family records say that Rose was the daughter of Henry Crisp of Bradford upon Avon in Wiltshire and was born about 1867.
The FreeBMD index has three records for the birth of Rosa Crisp in 1867/1868.
There's also a marriage record for a Rosa Crisp marrying a Mr Smith in 1889.
So who was our Rose Crisp?
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Re: Who was Rose/Rosa Crisp who married Joshua Morgan Thomas in 1890?
« Reply #1 on: Friday 04 May 18 05:29 BST (UK) »
The marriage certificate will give you her fathers name.

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Re: Who was Rose/Rosa Crisp who married Joshua Morgan Thomas in 1890?
« Reply #2 on: Friday 04 May 18 05:42 BST (UK) »
We already have her father's name as Henry Crisp.
The 1881 Census has Rosa E A Crisp as the daughter of Henry Crisp, but we have a marriage for Rosa Eva Amelia Crisp to a John William Smith on 5th May 1888 and it seems that their marriage lasted a while.
Our Rose married Joshua in 1890 and her father was supposedly Henry Crisp too. That's why I'm posting here.
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Re: Who was Rose/Rosa Crisp who married Joshua Morgan Thomas in 1890?
« Reply #3 on: Friday 04 May 18 05:52 BST (UK) »
The two Rose/Rosa births in Bradford on Avon in the period you mention

ROSA CRISP   Mothers Maiden Name    COMLEY      
GRO Ref 1866  DEC Qter BRADFORD  Vol 05A  Page 125    
ROSA  EVA AMELIA  CRISP   Mothers Maiden Name HIBBARD     
GRO Ref 1867  SEP Qter  BRADFORD (WILTS)  Vol 05A  Page 123

The Smith/Crisp marriage in 1888 you mention lists the wife as Rosa Eva A Crisp

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Re: Who was Rose/Rosa Crisp who married Joshua Morgan Thomas in 1890?
« Reply #4 on: Friday 04 May 18 06:02 BST (UK) »
So the 1881 census for Rosa E A Crisp has parents Henry and Sarah Crisp. But this Rosa married Mr Smith.
Is there another 1881 census record for Rose/Rosa with another Henry as her father?
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Re: Who was Rose/Rosa Crisp who married Joshua Morgan Thomas in 1890?
« Reply #5 on: Friday 04 May 18 06:05 BST (UK) »
Her parents are possibly Henry and Eliza re 1871 census of Bradford on Avon.

1901 census Rose states born Bradford on Avon

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Re: Who was Rose/Rosa Crisp who married Joshua Morgan Thomas in 1890?
« Reply #6 on: Friday 04 May 18 06:20 BST (UK) »
Possible marriage for parents

Marriages Sep 1852 Bradford W    5a   181
Eliza COMLEY - Henry CRISP           


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Re: Who was Rose/Rosa Crisp who married Joshua Morgan Thomas in 1890?
« Reply #7 on: Friday 04 May 18 06:21 BST (UK) »
There's a Henry Crisp in the 1881 census with wife Eliza living in Bradford on Avon. He is a wool dyer. Rose/Rosa is not with them.
Anyway, I think we've established that our Rose's parents were not Henry and Sarah but were Henry and Eliza.
She is not Rosa Eva Amelia Crisp, but her mother's maiden name was Comley.
Agreed?
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Re: Who was Rose/Rosa Crisp who married Joshua Morgan Thomas in 1890?
« Reply #8 on: Friday 04 May 18 06:23 BST (UK) »
I think you are correct Kay.
So I wonder where our Rose/Rosa was in 1881?  ???
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