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Couple of marriages I can't find
« on: Saturday 05 May 18 12:00 BST (UK) »
Hello,

For all I know these marriages never took place but I have found the women's maiden names from the GRO:

William Salter and Elizabeth Hobbs, living in Bremhill in the 1830s

James Moore and Sarah Pope, living in Calne and Highway in the 1840s

James Provis and Sarah Webb, living in Bremhill in the 1840s

I'd appreciate any help!

Adam
Dead-end ancestors:

William Cartwright, d. 1910, Wigston
Lewis Lipman, b. ca. 1798 (son of John Lipman, late of Glasgow)
Simon McGrigor/McGregor/MacGregor, b. ca. 1789, m. 1811, Fodderty, d. 1859, Fodderty (parents Alexander MacGregor and Mary Grant)
William Sands, b. ca. 1816, m. 1837, Clerkenwell, d. 1863, St. Luke's
Jesse Thorogood, b. ca. 1751, m. 1777, Shalford, d. 1826, Shalford

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Re: Couple of marriages I can't find
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 05 May 18 12:19 BST (UK) »
Here's one: From Wiltshire, England, Church of England Marriages and Banns, 1754-1916
These are the banns rather than the marriage but may help:

James Provis
Bann Date:   11 Oct 1840  (third calling)
Bremhill, Wiltshire, England
Spouse:   Sarah Webb

James was of this parish and Sarah of ? Malford, so the marriage may have taken place there.
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Re: Couple of marriages I can't find
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 05 May 18 12:20 BST (UK) »
Here is the marriage from Freebmd

Marriages Dec 1840   

PROVIS    James       
WEBB    Sarah       
Chippenham    8   491
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Re: Couple of marriages I can't find
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 05 May 18 12:24 BST (UK) »
England, Select Marriages, 15381973

Sarah Pope
Marriage Date:   1824
Highway, Wiltshire, England
Spouse:   James Moore
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Re: Couple of marriages I can't find
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 05 May 18 12:24 BST (UK) »
That's great! Thanks.
Dead-end ancestors:

William Cartwright, d. 1910, Wigston
Lewis Lipman, b. ca. 1798 (son of John Lipman, late of Glasgow)
Simon McGrigor/McGregor/MacGregor, b. ca. 1789, m. 1811, Fodderty, d. 1859, Fodderty (parents Alexander MacGregor and Mary Grant)
William Sands, b. ca. 1816, m. 1837, Clerkenwell, d. 1863, St. Luke's
Jesse Thorogood, b. ca. 1751, m. 1777, Shalford, d. 1826, Shalford

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Re: Couple of marriages I can't find
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 05 May 18 12:30 BST (UK) »
There is this marriage for William Salter, but wrong name for bride. Could it have been a second marriage for her?  Again banns rather than marriage

William Salter
Bann Date:   19 Mar 1826
Bremhill, Wiltshire, England

Spouse:   Elizabeth Hope
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Re: Couple of marriages I can't find
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 05 May 18 12:32 BST (UK) »
I had that marriage down before but could never find an Elizabeth Hope. Probably is Hobbs.
Dead-end ancestors:

William Cartwright, d. 1910, Wigston
Lewis Lipman, b. ca. 1798 (son of John Lipman, late of Glasgow)
Simon McGrigor/McGregor/MacGregor, b. ca. 1789, m. 1811, Fodderty, d. 1859, Fodderty (parents Alexander MacGregor and Mary Grant)
William Sands, b. ca. 1816, m. 1837, Clerkenwell, d. 1863, St. Luke's
Jesse Thorogood, b. ca. 1751, m. 1777, Shalford, d. 1826, Shalford

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Re: Couple of marriages I can't find
« Reply #7 on: Saturday 05 May 18 12:47 BST (UK) »
Hi
The obvious marriage for William Slater and Elizabeth is at Bremhill 4.5.1826
William Slater labourer and Elizabeth Hope both this parish bach and spins
with consent of parents
witness Elizabeth Rawlings and William Pownsey

I know that doesn't match the GRO or the potential baptism for Elizabeth Hobbs and a birth c 1797 Leigh Delamere.

William seems to have been baptised 20.9.1801 s of Joseph  and Elizabeth Driver
It is suggested that dad Joseph who was illegitimate s of Diana Driver 7.6.1767 may have had a father called Salter.

But I can't see a marriage under Driver either.

James Moore bach labourer married Sarah Pope  at Highway 22.11.1824
wit Edmund Evans William Coleman (standard witnesses ) and Jane Taylor

James Provis and Sarah Webb at Christian Malford 19.10.1840
James Provis lab 25 Foxham James Provis lab
Sarah Webb 25 servant Malford  Richard Webb lab
wit William Mills and Elizabeth Provis

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Re: Couple of marriages I can't find
« Reply #8 on: Saturday 05 May 18 13:02 BST (UK) »
That's great, thanks! How did you come to the Driver/Salter conclusion? So was William christened as Salter or Driver in 1801?
Dead-end ancestors:

William Cartwright, d. 1910, Wigston
Lewis Lipman, b. ca. 1798 (son of John Lipman, late of Glasgow)
Simon McGrigor/McGregor/MacGregor, b. ca. 1789, m. 1811, Fodderty, d. 1859, Fodderty (parents Alexander MacGregor and Mary Grant)
William Sands, b. ca. 1816, m. 1837, Clerkenwell, d. 1863, St. Luke's
Jesse Thorogood, b. ca. 1751, m. 1777, Shalford, d. 1826, Shalford