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Re: Help with WWI Uniform
« Reply #18 on: Monday 15 October 18 15:25 BST (UK) »
Festina lente!

The number you asked  about, T/309046, was an ASC number allocated to men involved in the horse transport element of that corps.  There is no evidence that he was commissioned.
There is no connection found with the Manchesters.

That said, I was intrigued from the start of this.  The influx of men, mostly, but by no means all, ASC and some sergeants, to 10th Fusiliers seemed a bit odd.  Many had (dare I say it) foreign sounding names, many returned their medals after the war to be "adjusted", more than one (but I haven't trawled them all) has a reference on his medal card to an Intelligence/Interpreters Officers medal list that can be seen on Ancestry but which has a number of pages missing - the names refer to pages that aren't there. 

I would go along with Regorian's thought that the regiments may, in some cases*, have been a way of covering up their real purpose in life but think it would be a mistake, given the lack of evidence and the unlikelihood of any ever being found relating to specific men,  to go straight for a specific element of the campaigns such as the Russian campaign.  Interpreters would have been in equal demand in the immediate post war occupation force in Germany.

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*Some cases because there are some who served early enough to have the 1914 or 1914/15 Star with their first regiment named well before the probable time frame of the transfer of men to 10 RF.
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Re: Help with WWI Uniform
« Reply #19 on: Monday 15 October 18 15:40 BST (UK) »
I know you people take a delight in rubbishing me, however, the troops sent to Murmansk 1918 were:-

236th Infantry Brigade.
6th battallion RMLI.
2/10 (cyclist) Battalion, Royal Scots.
52nd (Graduated) Battallion Manchester Regiment.
and dets. Royal Dublin Fusiliers.

The Manchester Regiment also had a 53rd (Graduated) Battalion.

Those 'Graduated' battalions were not sent abroad to be slaughtered.




Griffiths Llandogo, Mitcheltroy, Mon. and Whitchurch Here (Also Edwards),  18th C., Griffiths FoD 19th Century.

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Re: Help with WWI Uniform
« Reply #20 on: Monday 15 October 18 15:54 BST (UK) »
Graduated Battalion surely has no connection with “graduates”.

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« Reply #21 on: Monday 15 October 18 16:13 BST (UK) »
Got it wrong.....again, I'll get me coat.
Griffiths Llandogo, Mitcheltroy, Mon. and Whitchurch Here (Also Edwards),  18th C., Griffiths FoD 19th Century.

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« Reply #22 on: Monday 15 October 18 16:15 BST (UK) »
No "rubbishing" on my part, I stated I found no connection with the man we are looking at and the Manchesters. 

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I am Zoe Northeast, granddaughter of Maximilian Double.
 
It is with great difficulty I share with you that in the early hours of 07 August 2021, Maximilian passed away unexpectedly but peacefully.

With deep sadness,
Zoe



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Re: Help with WWI Uniform
« Reply #23 on: Monday 15 October 18 16:29 BST (UK) »
Info - graduated battalions were the step through which young soldiers "transitioned" as they grew older between Young Soldiers Battalions and the active service battalions.


The units sent to Russia  here:
http://www.militarian.com/threads/british-army-in-russia-1918-1919.7652/

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I am Zoe Northeast, granddaughter of Maximilian Double.
 
It is with great difficulty I share with you that in the early hours of 07 August 2021, Maximilian passed away unexpectedly but peacefully.

With deep sadness,
Zoe



Double  Essex/Suffolk
Randle/Millington Warwicks
Sokser/Klingler Austria/Croatia

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Re: Help with WWI Uniform
« Reply #24 on: Monday 15 October 18 18:17 BST (UK) »
Thanks again for clarifying my foggy thoughts.
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