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girling alfred henri samuel
« on: Friday 11 May 18 04:41 BST (UK) »
Helping a friend with his ancestors. This chap is particularly interesting and we would like to know more about him. His death cert. states he was born in Free State, Africa, 1863. His father we think, was Thomas. Anyone with any more info?  We know a lot more about his life in Australia. He was murdered in 1914.                                                                                                             
Watkins, Price Herefordshire
Brannan, Price, GLAM
Edwards, Gardner MON
Clark(e) SOM
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Re: girling alfred henri samuel
« Reply #1 on: Friday 11 May 18 06:29 BST (UK) »
I have just had a quick look at this and I think Trees have mistakes.
They have Census with Alfreds Father as a Lace Maker born c 1840, Nottinghamshire.

I dont think a Lace Maker would become a Govt Superintendant a few years later!

1881 Census in England we have;
Thomas H. Girling, 47, Head, Mar, Superintendant (Gov), born Deal, Kent
Alfred Samuel H. Girling, 18, Son, School,  born Free State Africa, Africa

Will see what else I can find soon.

It is also possible he went to Australia also;

Name:   Thomas Henri Girling
Spouse Name:   Phoebe Hastings Cuolahan
Marriage Date:   31 Jul 1887
Marriage Place:   Queensland
Registration Place:   Queensland
Registration Year:   1887
Registration Number:   000012
Page Number:   5410


Trish :)

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Re: girling alfred henri samuel
« Reply #2 on: Friday 11 May 18 07:09 BST (UK) »
Trish! What can I say??? Thank you so much for that........ you've just added another piece to the puzzle! I think this might have been a second? marriage. He was a bit of a lad and had 7 or 8 children, and the lady he took up with here had 6 or 7 (or so we are told!). His death cert also says his relationship at time of death was de facto. He was murdered in QLD!!
Watkins, Price Herefordshire
Brannan, Price, GLAM
Edwards, Gardner MON
Clark(e) SOM
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Re: girling alfred henri samuel
« Reply #3 on: Friday 11 May 18 07:14 BST (UK) »
I meant Alfred was a bit of a lad. Had a rotten temper too, apparently!
Watkins, Price Herefordshire
Brannan, Price, GLAM
Edwards, Gardner MON
Clark(e) SOM
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Re: girling alfred henri samuel
« Reply #4 on: Friday 11 May 18 07:35 BST (UK) »
It makes family history more interesting ;D
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