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Re: R Martyr Armour True.(yes a name!,my 6th great grandmother).
« Reply #9 on: Thursday 14 June 18 07:02 BST (UK) »
Third Generation
8. Hannah GREEN (also known as Hannah BOVER), daughter of Joseph GREEN and True BEARMAN, was born in January 1737 in Writtle, Essex, England.4 She was baptised on 28 January 1737 in Writtle.4 She married Edward BOVER on 29 February 1756 in Writtle.5 She died in September 1779 in Writtle.9 She was buried on 30 September 1779 in Writtle.9

Edward BOVER, son of Thomas BOVER ( - ) and Sarah ( - ), was born circa 1724 in Southminster, Essex, England.1 He was baptised on 5 May 1724 in Southminster.1  He and Hannah GREEN had the following children:

19   Edward BOVER (1756-1823).   Edward was born on 22 October 1756 in Writtle.4 He was baptised on 21 November 1756 in C of E, Writtle, Essex, England.4 He married Hannah GREEN on 10 August 1777 in C of E.5 He died in September 1823 in Writtle.10 He was buried on 24 September 1823 in C of E.11
20   Joseph BOVER (1759- ).   Joseph was born in October 1759 in Writtle.4 He was baptised on 4 November 1759 in Writtle.4
21   Joseph BOVER (1760- ).   Joseph was born in October 1760 in Writtle.4 He was baptised on 2 November 1760 in Writtle.4
22   William BOVER (1762-1837).   William was born in February 1762 in Writtle.4 He was baptised on 7 March 1762 in C of E.4 He married Mary BRIGHT on 1 September 1794 in C of E, Woodham Ferrers, Essex, England. The marriage was witnessed by Edward BOVER.12 He died in October 1837 in Woodham Ferrers, Essex, England.13 He was buried on 10 October 1837 in C of E.13
23   Charles BOVER (1764-1836).   Charles was born in July 1764 in Writtle.4 He was baptised on 12 August 1764 in C of E.4 He married Mary CADMAN on 7 August 1785 in C of E.14 He married Sarah PRYOR on 2 August 1790 in Writtle.15 He married Elizabeth GROVES on 25 April 1804 in Writtle. He died in July 1836 in Writtle. He was buried on 1 August 1836 in C of E.16
24   Elizabeth BOVER (1767- ).   Elizabeth was born in March 1767 in Writtle. She was baptised on 15 March 1767 in Writtle.
25   Elizabeth BOVER (1769- ).   Elizabeth was born in May 1769 in Writtle. She was baptised on 28 May 1769 in Writtle.
26   Hannah BOVER (1772- ).   Hannah was born in August 1772 in Writtle. She was baptised on 30 August 1772 in Writtle.
27   Henry BOVER (1775-1775).   Henry was born in April 1775 in Writtle. He was baptised on 23 April 1775 in Writtle. He died in September 1775 in Writtle.9

9. Joseph GREEN,4 son of Joseph GREEN and True BEARMAN, was born in March 1730 in Writtle.4 He was baptised on 7 March 1730 in Writtle.4

10. Armata True GREEN4 (also known as Armata True BARNARD), daughter of Joseph GREEN and True BEARMAN, was born in March 1733 in Writtle.4 She was baptised on 27 March 1733 in Writtle.4 She married John BARNARD on 27 October 1751 in Writtle.1

John BARNARD1 was born circa 1730.

11. John GREEN,4 son of Joseph GREEN and True BEARMAN, was born in December 1734 in Writtle.4 He was baptised on 29 December 1734 in Writtle.4 He married Elizabeth BENCHESTER on 8 November 1755 in Writtle.17

Elizabeth BENCHESTER17 (also known as Elizabeth GREEN) was born circa 1730.

12. Edward GREEN,4 son of Joseph GREEN and True BEARMAN, was born in February 1738 in Writtle.4 He was baptised on 25 February 1738 in Writtle.4

13. Edward GREEN,4 son of Joseph GREEN and True BEARMAN, was born in May 1741 in Writtle.4 He was baptised on 10 May 1741 in Writtle.4

14. Charles GREEN,4 son of Joseph GREEN and True BEARMAN, was born in May 1743 in Writtle.4 He was baptised on 29 May 1743 in Writtle.4

15. Peter GREEN,4 son of Joseph GREEN and True BEARMAN, was born in June 1745 in Writtle.4 He was baptised on 30 June 1745 in Writtle.4

16. James GREEN,4 son of Joseph GREEN and True BEARMAN, was born in October 1747 in Writtle.4 He was baptised on 29 October 1747 in Writtle.4

17. Tobias GREEN,4 son of Joseph GREEN and True BEARMAN, was born in April 1750 in Writtle.4 He was baptised on 29 April 1750 in Writtle.4

18. Mary GREEN,4 daughter of Joseph GREEN and True BEARMAN, was born in October 1752 in Writtle.4 She was baptised on 8 October 1752 in Writtle.4
 Sources
1.   "IGI ".
2.   UK Church Records.  Text From Source: SEAX parish register films on-line

3.   "National Burials Index".
4.   ERO Writtle Baptisms.
5.   ERO Writtle Marriages.
6.   National Burials Index.  Text From Source: 22 Feb 1789

7.   "IGI ".  Text From Source: C047541

8.   Ibid.  Text From Source: White Notley baptisms C047541

9.   Essex Record Office, "SEAX Essex Record Office Archives".
10.   ERO Writtle Burials.  Assessment: Primary evidence.

11.   Ibid.  Text From Source: page 48

12.   ERO Woodham Ferrers Marriage.  Text From Source: page 2 No 5

13.   ERO Woodham Ferrers Burials.
14.   ERO Writtle Marriages.  Text From Source: No 135

15.   Ibid.  Text From Source: widower and widow

16.   ERO Writtle Burials.  Text From Source: page 116

17.   "IGI ".  Text From Source: A456666[:CR:]



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Re: R Martyr Armour True.(yes a name!,my 6th great grandmother).
« Reply #10 on: Friday 15 June 18 15:44 BST (UK) »
Thanks very much JeanetteM for your very detailed reply.
Very interesting your interpretation of the name.
Will now study in depth all the information.
Thank you again.
Colin.
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Re: R Martyr Armour True.(yes a name!,my 6th great grandmother).
« Reply #11 on: Friday 15 June 18 23:58 BST (UK) »
Hi Colin. I don't know where I found it originally but ...

Encyclopedia of Indo-European Culture edited by J P Mallory and Douglas Q Adams. “Spanta Armaiti…a goddess of Iranian Zoroastrian religion…She granted wisdom and she taught the path of truth.”

The Language of the Angels: Calling Angelic Assistance, Healing and Wisdom ...
By Claire Nahmad "Angel of Truth: Armaita"

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Re: R Martyr Armour True.(yes a name!,my 6th great grandmother).
« Reply #12 on: Saturday 16 June 18 16:56 BST (UK) »
Hello Jeanette,
Delightful derivation.
Searching Ancestry etc,there are quite a few records of "Amata" around that period (including one in Essex in 1722 in Belchamp Otten).
Williams baptism 1714/15 in the Writtle registers looks to me very like "Honour".
Do you think it likely that " R Martyr Armour True" was in fact "Amata Honour True"?
Colin
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Re: R Martyr Armour True.(yes a name!,my 6th great grandmother).
« Reply #13 on: Saturday 16 June 18 23:48 BST (UK) »
Hi Colin. You may well be right. The person writing in the parish records wrote their own interpretation of the name. My guess is they were going for Armaita amour (love) true (truth). My grandmothers were sisters Cath and Clara Bover born in Woodham Ferrers in 1905 and 1906. Their grandfather John Bover was baptised in Woodham Ferrers in 1830 parents Edward Bover and Catherine Bearman. There is no satisfactory paper trail linking this Edward Bover to the Writtle Bovers but I now have DNA links with two descendants of Charles Bover and Elizabeth Groves who married in Writtle in 1804. I have this Charles as a great grandson of R Martye. If my Gx3 grandfather Edward Bover was a son of Charles by his second wife Sarah Pryor or the son of one of Charles' brothers or sisters (illegitimate) that would make R Martye my 7th great grandmother.

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Re: R Martyr Armour True.(yes a name!,my 6th great grandmother).
« Reply #14 on: Sunday 17 June 18 00:12 BST (UK) »
Of course the big problem is trying to work out who R Martye's parents were. How was her baptism  recorded? Why can't we find a marriage of Edward Bearman with someone who could be R martye? There are not so many spelling variations for Bearman. It should be easier searching for the marriage this way. But no luck so far.

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Re: R Martyr Armour True.(yes a name!,my 6th great grandmother).
« Reply #15 on: Monday 18 June 18 15:39 BST (UK) »
With no basis whatsoever I assume, for want of a better expression,they were "ordinary folk".
So do wonder why such unusual "classical" names were used?
It does seem logical that her mother would be similarly named?
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Re: R Martyr Armour True.(yes a name!,my 6th great grandmother).
« Reply #16 on: Tuesday 19 June 18 00:25 BST (UK) »
An Edward BEEMAN married Marth FECHER in Bocking in 1711 (Boyds) but since the first child we are interested in was born in White Notley in 1707 this looks unlikely. An Edward BEERMAN aged 12 son of Thomas was baptised 29 Apr 1696 in Bocking (SEAX).