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Re: Pontypridd workhouse
« Reply #9 on: Tuesday 15 May 18 05:08 BST (UK) »
Thanks diplodocus, thatís really interesting.
CARDIFF:Lord,Griffiths,Barry,Cope,Mahoney ~ PEMBROKESHIRE:Griffiths,Rees,Owen,Thomas ~ ESSEX:Lord,Foreman,Hatch ~ SOMERSET:Lord,Cox,Hockey,Linham,Bryant ~ STAFFORDSHIRE:Cope,Elks,Hackney,Gallimore,Davenport ~ SUFFOLK:Lord,Lockwood,Hatch,Rix,Foreman ~ IRELAND:Barry,Meany,Cummins,Grogan ~
PONTYPRIDD:Leigh,Brooks,Adams,Davies,Thomas ~ KENT:Leigh ~ CHESHIRE:Adams,Tudor,Illidge ~ DENBIGHSHIRE:Edwards,Bolas ~BRECON:Leigh,Thomas,Davies ~SOMERSET:Adams,Keitch,Bridge ~ABERGAVENNY:Minton ~ MERTHYR:.....

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Re: Pontypridd workhouse
« Reply #10 on: Wednesday 16 May 18 10:34 BST (UK) »
Quote from Keith Jones book
1948
The poor law ended by the national Assistant act of 1948 Following the publication  the management committee  renames Central Homes  as the Graig Hospital to fit in with the surroundings  Premises where transferred to the Ministry of Health  taken over by the newly formed Pontypridd and Rhondda Hospital Management.
Hope this helps i guess the name changed but the stigma never ever did older folk retained the fear of going into this hospital

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Re: Pontypridd workhouse
« Reply #11 on: Wednesday 16 May 18 11:01 BST (UK) »
Cheers Heddwch, thatís really helpful. I have quite a few ancestors who died in the workhouse so it doesnít bother me (though very sad),  this just seemed a bit strange given the facts.
CARDIFF:Lord,Griffiths,Barry,Cope,Mahoney ~ PEMBROKESHIRE:Griffiths,Rees,Owen,Thomas ~ ESSEX:Lord,Foreman,Hatch ~ SOMERSET:Lord,Cox,Hockey,Linham,Bryant ~ STAFFORDSHIRE:Cope,Elks,Hackney,Gallimore,Davenport ~ SUFFOLK:Lord,Lockwood,Hatch,Rix,Foreman ~ IRELAND:Barry,Meany,Cummins,Grogan ~
PONTYPRIDD:Leigh,Brooks,Adams,Davies,Thomas ~ KENT:Leigh ~ CHESHIRE:Adams,Tudor,Illidge ~ DENBIGHSHIRE:Edwards,Bolas ~BRECON:Leigh,Thomas,Davies ~SOMERSET:Adams,Keitch,Bridge ~ABERGAVENNY:Minton ~ MERTHYR:.....

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Re: Pontypridd workhouse
« Reply #12 on: Wednesday 16 May 18 12:51 BST (UK) »
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I have quite a few ancestors who died in the workhouse so it doesnít bother me (though very sad).

No, I don't suppose it bothers many of us now but we are blessed by the mists of passing time.  Until WW2 in order to obtain any form of monetary relief, the "dole" people would first ensure you had sold off most of your worldly possessions. Given how much more your neighbours knew about what was going on 'down the street', you couldn't hide the fact that you were failing to survive (whatever the reason). "The Workhouse" was viewed by most people as the end of the descent into abject poverty. Whilst some families fell through illness, death or disaster, for others it was as the result of the demon drink. Somehow, inmates usually ended being seen as "the undeserving poor" no matter how unfair that seems now.

Not only did my father work in Chelsea Workhouse, one of my aunts was the matron of another (in Pembrokeshire) and an uncle spent in life in care for the elderly after his first appointment as "Deputy Master of Worcester Workhouse" !!
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Re: Pontypridd workhouse
« Reply #13 on: Wednesday 16 May 18 13:02 BST (UK) »
Indeed, it must have been absolutely horrible, both the threat and reality. How many of us would have survived 🙁.
CARDIFF:Lord,Griffiths,Barry,Cope,Mahoney ~ PEMBROKESHIRE:Griffiths,Rees,Owen,Thomas ~ ESSEX:Lord,Foreman,Hatch ~ SOMERSET:Lord,Cox,Hockey,Linham,Bryant ~ STAFFORDSHIRE:Cope,Elks,Hackney,Gallimore,Davenport ~ SUFFOLK:Lord,Lockwood,Hatch,Rix,Foreman ~ IRELAND:Barry,Meany,Cummins,Grogan ~
PONTYPRIDD:Leigh,Brooks,Adams,Davies,Thomas ~ KENT:Leigh ~ CHESHIRE:Adams,Tudor,Illidge ~ DENBIGHSHIRE:Edwards,Bolas ~BRECON:Leigh,Thomas,Davies ~SOMERSET:Adams,Keitch,Bridge ~ABERGAVENNY:Minton ~ MERTHYR:.....

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Re: Pontypridd workhouse
« Reply #14 on: Wednesday 16 May 18 19:44 BST (UK) »
When I moved to Ponty in 1999 it still occasionally got referred to as the old workhouse and some people didn't want to go there for that reason - I guess the threat of it, even when very small, ran deep

A lot of the pubs etc would still be known by names for decades earlier

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Re: Pontypridd workhouse
« Reply #15 on: Wednesday 16 May 18 19:50 BST (UK) »
 :(
CARDIFF:Lord,Griffiths,Barry,Cope,Mahoney ~ PEMBROKESHIRE:Griffiths,Rees,Owen,Thomas ~ ESSEX:Lord,Foreman,Hatch ~ SOMERSET:Lord,Cox,Hockey,Linham,Bryant ~ STAFFORDSHIRE:Cope,Elks,Hackney,Gallimore,Davenport ~ SUFFOLK:Lord,Lockwood,Hatch,Rix,Foreman ~ IRELAND:Barry,Meany,Cummins,Grogan ~
PONTYPRIDD:Leigh,Brooks,Adams,Davies,Thomas ~ KENT:Leigh ~ CHESHIRE:Adams,Tudor,Illidge ~ DENBIGHSHIRE:Edwards,Bolas ~BRECON:Leigh,Thomas,Davies ~SOMERSET:Adams,Keitch,Bridge ~ABERGAVENNY:Minton ~ MERTHYR:.....

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Re: Pontypridd workhouse
« Reply #16 on: Wednesday 16 May 18 23:42 BST (UK) »
The maternity hospital where I was born was formerly a workhouse. When Dad registered my birth the REGISTRAR entered place of birth as "Tredegar Workhouse". Mum went ballistic!!!! Dad had to go and get it changed in no short order! So yes, the stigma did linger......... and so did the name.
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Re: Pontypridd workhouse
« Reply #17 on: Thursday 17 May 18 01:24 BST (UK) »
The maternity hospital where I was born was formerly a workhouse. When Dad registered my birth the REGISTRAR entered place of birth as "Tredegar Workhouse". Mum went ballistic!!!! Dad had to go and get it changed in no short order! So yes, the stigma did linger......... and so did the name.

Thatís awful, not surprised your mum went ballistic 🌺
CARDIFF:Lord,Griffiths,Barry,Cope,Mahoney ~ PEMBROKESHIRE:Griffiths,Rees,Owen,Thomas ~ ESSEX:Lord,Foreman,Hatch ~ SOMERSET:Lord,Cox,Hockey,Linham,Bryant ~ STAFFORDSHIRE:Cope,Elks,Hackney,Gallimore,Davenport ~ SUFFOLK:Lord,Lockwood,Hatch,Rix,Foreman ~ IRELAND:Barry,Meany,Cummins,Grogan ~
PONTYPRIDD:Leigh,Brooks,Adams,Davies,Thomas ~ KENT:Leigh ~ CHESHIRE:Adams,Tudor,Illidge ~ DENBIGHSHIRE:Edwards,Bolas ~BRECON:Leigh,Thomas,Davies ~SOMERSET:Adams,Keitch,Bridge ~ABERGAVENNY:Minton ~ MERTHYR:.....