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William COOPER
« on: Sunday 13 May 18 15:43 BST (UK) »
Could do with some help please as at the moment I do not have access to worldwide sub.  I have William COOPER born in Darenth, Kent, UK and baptised on the 25 April 1799 in Darenth to parents John Cooper and Mary Anne Brown.  The next time I find William appears to be in Australia were he marries Mary Ann Morley and later Lucinda Campbell.

What I cannot find is the reason he went to Australia although I suspect it may be transportation as he appears to have been in trouble while there.  There are several family trees and even one showing the reason why he was transported but they all have his birth and baptism place incorrect.

If I should be looking in Kent rather than here please let me know and I will re-post.  Thank you

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Re: William COOPER
« Reply #1 on: Monday 14 May 18 00:37 BST (UK) »
You find him marrying where and when in Australia and how do you know it is your William marrying?

Where did he die?

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Atkinson; Badier; Cameron; Grant; Howie; Jardine; Jenkins; Kerr; Lawardorn; Lee; Linton; Lonie; McConnell; Morgan; Morrison; Murphy; O'Leary; Paton; Pratt; Robb; Williams

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Re: William COOPER
« Reply #2 on: Monday 14 May 18 00:44 BST (UK) »
 Found it, NSW

3784/1826 V18263784 3B COOPER William to  MORLEY Mary A CH

366/1856 V1856366 155 COOPER William to CAMPBELL Lucinda CA

Are these the deaths?

275/1856 COOPER William parents JOHN and MARY SYDNEY

2685/1856 COOPER Mary A THOMAS and MARY NEWCASTLE

8519/1875 COOPER  Lucinda parents JOHN C and ELIZABETH at LAMBTON

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Added: Based on the site provided by Essie, this death is supposed to be his:

4271/1859 COOPER WILLIAM parent JONATHAN DIED NEWCASTLE NEWCASTLE

It also has him born in 1803
Atkinson; Badier; Cameron; Grant; Howie; Jardine; Jenkins; Kerr; Lawardorn; Lee; Linton; Lonie; McConnell; Morgan; Morrison; Murphy; O'Leary; Paton; Pratt; Robb; Williams

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Re: William COOPER
« Reply #3 on: Monday 14 May 18 01:23 BST (UK) »
This webpage has William COOPER arriving on the ship Lord Melville in 1818.
https://australianroyalty.net.au/individual.php?pid=I38198&ged=purnellmccord.ged

This ship went to Van Diemen's Land and this William COOPER was convicted at the Nottingham Assizes.
https://convictrecords.com.au/ships/lord-melville/1818

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Re: William COOPER
« Reply #4 on: Monday 14 May 18 01:48 BST (UK) »
Hi Secondlife,

What do you have to show that the WC who marries MA Morley in 1826 in Australia was baptised in Darenth Kent?
Do you have any records that he completed in Australia that show his place and date of birth?
What occupation do you have for WC?
How do you know that he had been in trouble previously?

If you can add as much detail as possible (including sources) then you will have a greater chance of the people on here helping you.

Kind regards,
Jo  :)
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Re: William COOPER
« Reply #5 on: Monday 14 May 18 02:26 BST (UK) »
Which William COOPER ….   :)  :) :)

NSW Archives has indexed Mary Ann MORLEY’s permission to marriage at Newcastle in 1826, to a William COWPER … twice indexed as Cowper.   She was aged 19, born in NSW.  He was aged 27, per Lord Melville 2, and still under Bond.  Rev George A MIDDLETON. 

Here is image of that 1826 marriage, Christ Church, Hexham NSW   Entry No. 3. 
https://www.flickr.com/photos/uon/2465640047/in/album-72157605008173551/

Add, so need to search under both spellings COWPER and COOPER ... and just on COOPER there's ummmmmmm.... pages of Prisoners of the Crown named William COOPER ....  :)

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Re: William COOPER
« Reply #6 on: Monday 14 May 18 02:37 BST (UK) »
http://colsec.records.nsw.gov.au/default.htm

William COOPER per
Tottenham 1819
Ocean 1816
Minerva 1821
Mary
Lord Melville
Larkins 1817
Canada 1819
Canada 1815
Baring
Asia 1825

William COWPER per
Larkins 1817

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Re: William COOPER
« Reply #7 on: Monday 14 May 18 02:52 BST (UK) »
William Cooper given a conditional pardon on 31 Dec 1847:
Description
Name: William Cooper
Ship: Lord Melville 2
Master: Wetherill
Year of Arrival: 1818
Native Place: Nottinghamshire
Trade or Calling: sweep & brickmaker
Offence: not given
Place of Trial: Nottinghamshire
date: 13 Mar 1818
Sentenced: Life
Year of Birth: 1799
Height: 5'3/4"
Complexion: light
Hair: brown
Eyes: Hazel

On list of prisoners transferred to Newcastle per "Elizabeth Henrietta" on 10 Jan 1822.

Still not sure where Darenth Kent comes in??

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Re: William COOPER
« Reply #8 on: Monday 14 May 18 03:10 BST (UK) »
William was received aboard the prison hulk the Justitia at  Woolwich Kent on 26 May 1818.

His crime was burglary and he was convicted along with three others on the same date for the same crime.

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Walters - Cornawall & Australia
Kingshott, Matheson, Pitt, McDonald, Keogh - Australia.