LOOK UP REQUEST PLEASE, C May to Alfred Byles and Catherine Byles to Gregerson

[louisa maud]

I am having problems sorting out the marriage of these two couples named below

1917 SEPT qtr
Alfred Byles
to
Catherine E E May
West Ham


1923 May qtr
Neils Gregerson
to
Catherine E E Byles
West Ham

Catherine lived in 39 Frith Road Leyton from approx. 1911, her father was Francis May

Any help would be much appreciated

Regards

Louisa Maud

[CaroleW]

I am having problems sorting out the marriage of these two couples named below

Have you looked for a death for Alfred Byles (possibly WW1?) in case the 1923 is a re-marriage?

Have you checked the 1939 register for Catherine Gregerson to compare the birthdate against that of Catherine E E May?

Presume you have already checked freebmd to rule out any birth reg for Catherine E E Byles?

Is this her birth reg?

Births June qtr 1882 
Catherine Edith E May  Lambeth    1d   465

[louisa maud]

Yes Carole, I have checked WW1 but no joy so far, at the moment I don't know how old he was

1939 she is under her maiden name of MAY  but shown as a widow, D of B 19/05/1882, at sometime it looks as if she reverted to her maiden name

1911 she is shown as being born Lambeth living Frith Road with her parents

Unless I am completely off track I believe my info is correct

Neils/Niels Gregerson was born in Denmark circa 1878

I would never have made the connection except I have a death cert here for Mr Gregerson, informant Francis May, father in law of Frith Road Leyton

Thank you Carole

Louisa Maud

[CaroleW]

I can't see any death for Alfred either - wonder if they divorced?  Can't see any children born to either marriage

Here is Catherine's death - as May

Catherine E E May aged 79 Dec 1961 Essex South Western 5a 236

The only Essex death for an Alfred Byles was in 1918 but he was born 1844 and left a will but probate was granted to the Rev Christie??

[louisa maud]

Did look at Kew, no divorce,
yes, I did see a will but discounted it, no next of kin and monies being left to a reverend.
I don't know what happened to Mr Byles but I do know Catherine married Mr haslebacker 1923 and he died in 1927, born 1878, Catherine then continues in her maiden name when she had been married twice, I wonder why?
I need to find the  marriage, the first one most likely a church ceremony, the second one possibly not.
I need to find a church near Frith road Leyton, I am hoping these records will be at Essex record office and not Walthamstow
Thank you Carol

LM

[louisa maud]

Can't see a connection to Alfred George Edward Christie on Mr Byles will

I have just listed churches to cover first marriage 1917 in Leyton, all 7 of them, now I have to find the ones nearest to Frith Road, I am Not familiar with the area

LM

[CaroleW]

It’s certainly a puzzler.  Depending on your research - you could buy a copy of the 1917 marriage cert to get Alfred’s details as that may make finding him a bit easier.  Catherine was 35 by 1917 so the marriage may not have been in a church

ps - who’s Mr Haslebacker

[jonw65]

Chelmsford Chronicle, 2 November 1917
Essex Assize
Bad Case of Bigamy
Albert Henry Byles, labourer, pleaded guilty to marrying Kathleen Edith May, at Leyton, on Sept. 9, 1917, his wife being then alive.—Mr. Jones, prosecuting, said there could be no excuse for the man's conduct. Prisoner married in 1910 and until 1914 lived with his wife.....

[louisa maud]

ps - who’s Mr Haslebacker

Sorry Carole, Mr Haslebacker was married to another family member, it should have been Gregerson

LM