Author Topic: LOOK UP REQUEST PLEASE, C May to Alfred Byles and Catherine Byles to Gregerson  (Read 4652 times)

Offline louisa maud

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John
What a scoop, where did you find that, I have been looking at papers, did think there was some hanky panky going on, poor woman

Huge thank you for that piece of info Jonw65

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Hi Louisa
It came from BNA (so it must be available elsewhere)
Bit of luck really, since the names are a bit different - just looking for "Byles" in Essex in case he might have gone missing in the war or something.
John

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The poor girl, she then went on to marry again, 1923 possibly in a register office as I assume the marriage was dissolved

I have found the write up, he was given 12 months hard labour, he had left a poor woman who was expecting his child to marry yet another poor unsuspecting woman, Catherine thought he was single
This marriage took place at Holy Trinity Leytonstone

I now have to sort out Gregerson to Catherine, she had kept her married name but seems eventually she decided to go back to the May surname

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Garner, Devon
Garner New Zealand
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There was a lot of it about it seems - there are a couple more cases in the same newspaper!
Are you able to see his first marriage?


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Yes thank you Jon I did find the marriage

It  seems on 1929 and 1938 ER's he is living with his legitimate wife, I assume he is there the years in between as well so hopefully he settled down

I now have to find the marriage to Niels Gregerson, that is the one I am mainly interested in

Yes, there certainly was a lot of it about, at least 2 in my family if not 3

Many thanks Jon an Carole

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Tocock, (name changed to Ellis) London
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Marriage
married: 09 Sep 1917; Holy Trinity, Harrow Green, Leytonstone; banns
groom: Alfred Byles; 32; bach; Engineers mate; 39 Frith Road
bride: Catherine Edith Ellen May; 30; spin; -; 39 Frith Road
grooms father: Henry Byles, gardener
brides father: Francis May, foreman
witnesses: W H Byles, E C? Osborn


Marriage
married: 31 Jan 1923; Holy Trinity, Harrow Green, Leytonstone; banns
groom: Niels Gregersen[1]; 44; wid; tailor; 39 Frith Road
bride: Catherine Edith Ellen Byles; 40; wid; -; 39 Frith Road
grooms father: Saren? Christine? Gregerson, farmer
brides father: Francis May, boiler maker
witnesses: F? May, F A M Firman

[1] Name recorded as Gregerson but signed Niels Gregersen.
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MAY, BYLES AND GREGERSON, COMPLETED THANK YOU
« Reply #15 on: Monday 14 May 18 22:00 BST (UK) »
Huge thank you Cuffie, that is what I was after, I would have thought  Catherine marrying again it would have been a register office, she states she is a widow, well I don't think she was, Mr Byles as far as I am concerned was very much alive, her first marriage I suppose was dissolved

Thank you everyone for your impute, I am considering this topic closed now

Best regards

Louisa Maud
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Garner, Devon
Garner New Zealand
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Jenkins Marylebone Paddington
Mizon/Mison/Myson Paddington
Tindal Marylebone Paddington
Tocock, (name changed to Ellis) London
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But LM, before you close it
Did you notice the Frances May + Matilda Turner marriage on the same page in the Sep 1917 index, so also at Holy Trinity.
Or did cuffie notice it?
It does say Frances on the original, but could it have been Catherine's dad Francis? His wife Lucy Ellen may have died in the previous quarter, June 1917?
John

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Francis and his daughter are together at a later date, he being shown as "W" , perhaps he was widowed again as I have just noticed Matilda May death 1934 West Ham, if he did marry again he sure was a quick worker.
This family did not have much luck with spouses

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Granath Sweden and London
Garner, Marylebone Paddington  Northolt Ilford
Garner, Devon
Garner New Zealand
Maddieson
Parkinson St Pancras,
Jenkins Marylebone Paddington
Mizon/Mison/Myson Paddington
Tindal Marylebone Paddington
Tocock, (name changed to Ellis) London
Southam Marylebone, Paddington
Bragg Lambeth 1800's
Edermaniger(Maniger) Essex Kent Canada (Toronto)
Coveney Kent Lambeth
Sondes kent and London