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Help with Maude Cecilia White - great-grandmother
« on: Sunday 13 May 18 22:56 BST (UK) »
Hi all,
My great-grandmother was Maude Cecilia White, mother of Cecilia V White and James Charles White. She was born in Belvedere Road, Lambeth, London in or around 1860, and subsequently moved to Brighton, Sussex. The problem is that her daughter (my maternal grandmother) moved to Africa and died when my mother was around 15, so there are only sketchy records as to:
a) presumably, though not definitely, a Mr White, Maude's husband; and
b) Maude's maiden name and her family.

A distant relative apparently "escaped from the French Revolution" which may account for the lack of joy I have had (apart from Census records for 1891,'91 and 1911), and I have toyed with the idea that her name may have been Blanc or le Blanc at some stage - but other than that I am at a dead end.

My mother (now 94) was much taken with the fact that I was even able to find Maude's name - which she never knew - but if anyone has any ideas as to where I could look next I'd really appreciate them.

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Re: Help with Maude Cecilia White - great-grandmother
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 13 May 18 23:28 BST (UK) »
When and where were Cecelia and James born?

What was Cecelia's full middle name?

When and where did Cecelia marry?  Any fathers name shown on her marriage cert?

When did Maude die?  Was it in Sussex?

Maude C White aged 66 March qtr 1927 Brighton Volume 2b Page 337
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Re: Help with Maude Cecilia White - great-grandmother
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 13 May 18 23:32 BST (UK) »
Likely birth registration is as Maude Cecilia Rowland, Jun qtr 1860 Lambeth (mmn Haselgrove).

She has a younger brother in the White household, Charlie C. Rowland, 12 b Richmond, in the 1891 census.
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

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Re: Help with Maude Cecilia White - great-grandmother
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 13 May 18 23:48 BST (UK) »
Births March qtr 1879   
Charles Clinton   Rowland  Richmond, S. 2a   339 mmn Hazelgrove

No birth reg for Cecilia V or James
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Re: Help with Maude Cecilia White - great-grandmother
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 13 May 18 23:53 BST (UK) »
Maude and Charles parents marriage

Marriages March qtr 1860   

Jane Augusta Haselgrove/George Charles Rowland      Lambeth    1d   492

Can't find a White/Rowland marriage but 1891 shows Maude as married and 1901 as widowed      
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Re: Help with Maude Cecilia White - great-grandmother
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 13 May 18 23:55 BST (UK) »
I see from later records that Jamesí middle name was Charles.  What did Ceciliaís middle initial V stand for?
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

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Re: Help with Maude Cecilia White - great-grandmother
« Reply #6 on: Monday 14 May 18 00:02 BST (UK) »
Confusingly, Maude had a sister named Cecilia Victoria Rowland (b 1874 Richmond).

I canít see Maude anywhere in 1881.  I wonder whether she married somewhere other than England/Wales?
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

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Re: Help with Maude Cecilia White - great-grandmother
« Reply #7 on: Monday 14 May 18 00:03 BST (UK) »
Is this Cecilia's marriage?

Cecilia White?Robert S Proctor June qtr 1919    Eastbourne 2B 193

If so - buying a copy of the marriage cert may give a fathers name/occupation

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Re: Help with Maude Cecilia White - great-grandmother
« Reply #8 on: Monday 14 May 18 00:08 BST (UK) »
Just a thought but...

Could Cecilia & Maude (sisters) be the same person, maybe didn't like her name?

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