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John Turner of Longton
« on: Tuesday 15 May 18 23:18 BST (UK) »
John Turner bap. 29 Aug 1803, St. John's, Longton.
On checking his fathers will (William) it was found that he died intestate, and the document was in fact a signed statement by William's son to the effect that he was the legal heir. (I seem to recall that it was signed by John but I no longer have that information).

His parents were William & Elizabeth and I have good information on that side of the family however I'm looking for anything on this John. His marriage or death but it is his possible children that I'm looking for to link them elsewhere. (Is there a George?)



Staffordshire: Turner, Emery, Hyde & Markland
Lancashire: Stirrup, Cloweth
London: Fountain,
Devon: Devonshire, Webb
Stirling: Wingate, 
Australia: Fountain, Turner, Solah, Paskins, Brookfield, Cowle, Trondsen

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Re: John Turner of Longton
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 16 May 18 07:31 BST (UK) »
There is a burial for a John Turner at Longton - 29 October 1841 aged 38, of Lane End.

Possible 1841 - HO107/991/4 folio 51, 14 - Chadwick Lane, Longton

John Turner - 40 - Carter
Elizabeth - 40 - Patten maker

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Re: John Turner of Longton
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 16 May 18 07:48 BST (UK) »
FindMyPast has the baptism (transcription only) of a John Entwizzle Turner, Longton, 1804, father John Turner. Could be the 1841 burial?.

 

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St. Brides/Wick - Jenkins
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Re: John Turner of Longton
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 16 May 18 07:52 BST (UK) »
Ahhhh ... That's a pretty good fit BumbleB

Chadwick Lane is now Chadwick Street on the corner of where the Gladstone Pottery Museum is. That corner is also only about 30 yards from where William Turners family pottery stood on the corner of Bridgwood Street.
Somebody should do an archaeological dig on that now vacant corner before it gets built over again.
Rob
Staffordshire: Turner, Emery, Hyde & Markland
Lancashire: Stirrup, Cloweth
London: Fountain,
Devon: Devonshire, Webb
Stirling: Wingate, 
Australia: Fountain, Turner, Solah, Paskins, Brookfield, Cowle, Trondsen

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Re: John Turner of Longton
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 16 May 18 07:57 BST (UK) »
There's an 1809 burial at Longton for a John Turner, age 5 - would fit the 1804 baptism

There's a job advert in the Staffordshire Advertiser, 10 Dec 1842, application to be made to "John Turner, Chemist, &c, Lane End, Potteries".

 
S. Wales, Somerset, Devon - Oxenham

Aberavon - Hopkin/s, Jenkins, Thomas
St. Brides/Wick - Jenkins
Llanblethian -  Price
Abergwynfi -  Han(d)ford
Pontardawe -  Lewis.

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Re: John Turner of Longton
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 16 May 18 08:01 BST (UK) »
When did William die?

So William died 1835 - gentleman and widower of Lane End.  John is described as a Potter when he applies for Administration (images available on FindMyPast). 

Not sure that that 1841 census for John is correct - he is described as a Carter.  :-\

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Re: John Turner of Longton
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 16 May 18 08:08 BST (UK) »
This article mentions "John and William Turner" - but they are not listed in the 1841 summary

http://www.thepotteries.org/location/districts/lane_end3.htm
S. Wales, Somerset, Devon - Oxenham

Aberavon - Hopkin/s, Jenkins, Thomas
St. Brides/Wick - Jenkins
Llanblethian -  Price
Abergwynfi -  Han(d)ford
Pontardawe -  Lewis.

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Re: John Turner of Longton
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 16 May 18 08:11 BST (UK) »
No ... Hanes Teulu
The man you referred to (John Turner) is the brother of the William Turner I mentioned in my initial post. John Entwhistle Turner died in Australia.

Information on the brothers can be found here http://www.thepotteries.org/allpotters/1009.htm
Any deaths relating to this brother and family should be found in Brewood, Wolverhampton & Australia. (This is my family line)

This search is being kept strictly to the 1st son of William Turner at this time. (Did he marry and have children)?

Regards Rob
Staffordshire: Turner, Emery, Hyde & Markland
Lancashire: Stirrup, Cloweth
London: Fountain,
Devon: Devonshire, Webb
Stirling: Wingate, 
Australia: Fountain, Turner, Solah, Paskins, Brookfield, Cowle, Trondsen

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Re: John Turner of Longton
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 16 May 18 08:30 BST (UK) »
Yes BumbleB
You have the correct family line. All information I have on on both sons says they were potters (John b. 1803 & William b. 1807 who married Charlotte Jones 1832 with 7 children all born Normacot)
These 7 children will be the subject of another latter search. At present I'm trying to find if a George Turner is the son of this mystery John Turner.

When did William die?

So William died 1835 - gentleman and widower of Lane End.  John is described as a Potter when he applies for Administration (images available on FindMyPast). 

Not sure that that 1841 census for John is correct - he is described as a Carter.  :-\
Staffordshire: Turner, Emery, Hyde & Markland
Lancashire: Stirrup, Cloweth
London: Fountain,
Devon: Devonshire, Webb
Stirling: Wingate, 
Australia: Fountain, Turner, Solah, Paskins, Brookfield, Cowle, Trondsen