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Re: Gertrude Butt/Francis
« Reply #9 on: Wednesday 13 June 18 05:16 BST (UK) »
Please let us know the outcome of the Birth Cert :)
So I have the birth cert, which says her mother is Emma Butt, formerly Teager and her father is Charles Butt a soldier. Date of birth 7th November 1872  :)

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Re: Gertrude Butt/Francis
« Reply #10 on: Wednesday 13 June 18 09:20 BST (UK) »
Just had a quick look but the only Charles But who is a Soldier I can find in the 1881 Census is;
Charles Burr c 1858 London Clerkenwell, Middlesex. In the Barracks in Aldeshot, Hampshire.

He seems to young to Father a Child in 1872 though.

If Charles was a Soldier in 1872 by 1881 he may have let the Army so may be hard to track.

Cant find Emma in 1881 Census as yet to see where she is and what name she is under.
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Cummins, Miskelly(IRELAND + NZ) ,Leggett (SFK + NFK ENGLAND + NZ),Purdy ( NBL ENGLAND + NZ ), Shaw YKS, LANCs + NZ), Holdsworth(LINCS +LANCS + NZ), Moloney, Dean, Fitzpatrick, ( County Down,IRE) Newby(NBL.ENG, Costello(IRE), Ivers, Murray(IRE),Reay(NBL.ENG) Reid (BERW.SCOTLAND)

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Re: Gertrude Butt/Francis
« Reply #11 on: Wednesday 13 June 18 09:35 BST (UK) »
Another strange thing 1871/1881 Emmas future husband is a Soldier.

1871 under John Broomton 1853 Tilby Lincs, in Essex
1881 under John Brumpton 1853 Market Rasen, Lincoln, in Berkshire
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Cummins, Miskelly(IRELAND + NZ) ,Leggett (SFK + NFK ENGLAND + NZ),Purdy ( NBL ENGLAND + NZ ), Shaw YKS, LANCs + NZ), Holdsworth(LINCS +LANCS + NZ), Moloney, Dean, Fitzpatrick, ( County Down,IRE) Newby(NBL.ENG, Costello(IRE), Ivers, Murray(IRE),Reay(NBL.ENG) Reid (BERW.SCOTLAND)

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Re: Gertrude Butt/Francis
« Reply #12 on: Wednesday 13 June 18 09:44 BST (UK) »
Another strange thing 1871/1881 Emmas future husband is a Soldier.

1871 under John Broomton 1853 Tilby Lincs, in Essex
1881 under John Brumpton 1853 Market Rasen, Lincoln, in Berkshire

Yes, I noticed that too! Emma and Charles had another child together. Charles Walter Butt born December 1876. So they stayed together for a few years. In 1871 Emma is living in London as servant.  There is another border at the same house called Charles Floyd. The first name is probably a coincidence but I'm having no luck searching for Charles Butt. So I'm looking at all the options  ;) I wondered if Charles was from the same Barracks as John Brompton. It seems strange that Emma and Charles didn't marry ... it says on the birth cert that Emma is Emma Butt formerly Teager but clearly they were never married as there is no marriage record.