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burial of Robert
« on: Wednesday 16 May 18 14:52 BST (UK) »
I have the NBI on disc. 

but it is not helping me at all .. well only a little bit.

Please can someone find me the burial of this man:

Robert Clark / e   - who died in 1852 in Fillongley/ Church Lawford.  His death cert states - Fillongley Meriden - the 1851 shows him as in Hydes Pasture Hinckley.  Born in Church Lawford.

ok.. this man has made my grey hair whiter than white -  (well its out of a box really :) ) but :

I have searched for him since pre 1990 and we went to Church Lawford, Pailton St. Ednas in those days and all churches around no trace..

I found his will and it states he wanted to be buried in

Farnboro Warwickshire.  Hey cheers marvellous success............
So spent a lovely day down there
and NO TRACE --
A lovely local lady on the Parish council went through her records -- No Trace 

they must have ignored his wishes and put him on the coal heap... or somewhere..

His Will is both useful and totally confusing - and then I found .. something that worried me to death as it was another will

with VERY similar dates and names.. but only so far.. the trouble is that one I cannot decipher properly..


I eventually attempted to follow the 'hints' from the will and go backwards and forwards with it.

It has shown some interesting links - but without a census or similar  Not sure - so many uncertainties....

its all guestimating and that does not suit me...

can explain more if needed

but oh dear -  bet you are all as fed up with it as me

xin


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Re: burial of Robert
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 16 May 18 15:07 BST (UK) »
Church Lawford - 10 April 1852

Robert Clarke of Fillongley aged 80.

Image on Ancestry.

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Re: burial of Robert
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 16 May 18 15:14 BST (UK) »
Thanks bumble B  xxx appreciate your input xxx


Yes I have that.


So does that prove that they actually buried him there?

Against his wishes ?

And will there be a grave number or a place.. I have tried to access this previously.. but no joy.

It is a lovely place and maybe they wanted him closer -- or just ignored his wishes..

Please dont let it be the wrong will..   that is a no go.. there are so many things on that Will that show it is his.

eee by gum

xin

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Re: burial of Robert
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 16 May 18 15:39 BST (UK) »
I can only say that that is where the burial service was held, perhaps if you contact the church they might have the graveyard plan, as it is quite a big churchyard.  I've found unmarked graves in a couple of areas because of the plans.

As to whether someone ignored his wishes, I don't know.  Perhaps he had already been buried before the will was seen  :-\
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Re: burial of Robert
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 16 May 18 15:47 BST (UK) »
OH   never thought of that :)  yes maybe they didnt read the will in time and he was getting a bit........ in need of burial...

thanks for that.

Yes will get in touch with the church.. (yet again :) ha ha )

thank you

xin

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Re: burial of Robert
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 16 May 18 15:52 BST (UK) »
You say you have the death certificate - what is the date of death, and was the informant a relative?   Bearing in mind that it was usual for burials to be completed within a few days of death.
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Re: burial of Robert
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 16 May 18 16:17 BST (UK) »
When my father died, we had the burial part-arranged, when we got round to looking at his Will, to get started on probate.

We discovered to our shock that he'd specified he wanted to be cremated.  :o :o

Even my mother didn't know. So we had to start all over again. If we'd got as far as purchasing the grave-plot Dad would've have had to lump it!

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Re: burial of Robert
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 16 May 18 16:41 BST (UK) »
Sorry Prawn Cocktail, that made me giggle :) 

ha ha


right

death cert says:

371  1852 / 5th April ( Fillongley) Male   80yrs   Erysipelas   the mark of Anne Clarke   7th April 1852...

All in good time for the 10th  and Ann must be a rellie, but not found as yet.  His first wife was Ann.. so could be a daughter from that relationship....  that I just havent come across .. as yet

thanks

xin

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Re: burial of Robert
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 16 May 18 17:55 BST (UK) »
From the will:

Thomas and John Clarke = brothers
John Clarke = son
Robert, John, Thomas and Elizabeth Clarke = grandchildren
George, John, Thomas and William Holt = grandchildren of my late wife
Sarah Cockerill = daughter of William Holt
Mary Butterill = step-daughter

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