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Offline MacGrigor

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William Sands
« on: Wednesday 16 May 18 16:25 BST (UK) »
Hello,

Can anyone find me a christening for a William Sands in Manchester, some point between 1815 and 1818? His age at death gives a year of birth of 1816 or 1817. He died in what is now North London, and sadly married shortly before civil registration was introduced.

I'd appreciate any help!

Adam
Dead-end ancestors:

William Cartwright, d. 1910, Wigston
Lewis Lipman, b. ca. 1798 (son of John Lipman, late of Glasgow)
Simon McGrigor/McGregor/MacGregor, b. ca. 1789, m. 1811, Fodderty, d. 1859, Fodderty (parents Alexander MacGregor and Mary Grant)
William Sands, b. ca. 1816, m. 1837, Clerkenwell, d. 1863, St. Luke's
Jesse Thorogood, b. ca. 1751, m. 1777, Shalford, d. 1826, Shalford

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Re: William Sands
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 16 May 18 17:54 BST (UK) »
A bit early

From Familysearch

William Sands
bapt 06 Jun 1813, Manchester Cathedral
Parents William Spencer & Mary Sands

William Sands   
bapt 15 Nov 1812 Manchester Cathedral
Parents William & Lydia Sands




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Re: William Sands
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 16 May 18 18:40 BST (UK) »
Yes, they're the only two I've ever come across  :'(
Dead-end ancestors:

William Cartwright, d. 1910, Wigston
Lewis Lipman, b. ca. 1798 (son of John Lipman, late of Glasgow)
Simon McGrigor/McGregor/MacGregor, b. ca. 1789, m. 1811, Fodderty, d. 1859, Fodderty (parents Alexander MacGregor and Mary Grant)
William Sands, b. ca. 1816, m. 1837, Clerkenwell, d. 1863, St. Luke's
Jesse Thorogood, b. ca. 1751, m. 1777, Shalford, d. 1826, Shalford

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Re: William Sands
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 16 May 18 18:45 BST (UK) »
Is your William married to Mary?
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Re: William Sands
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 16 May 18 18:51 BST (UK) »
Yes, he married Mary Thompson in Clerkenwell in 1837. I've drawn a blank on her too.
Dead-end ancestors:

William Cartwright, d. 1910, Wigston
Lewis Lipman, b. ca. 1798 (son of John Lipman, late of Glasgow)
Simon McGrigor/McGregor/MacGregor, b. ca. 1789, m. 1811, Fodderty, d. 1859, Fodderty (parents Alexander MacGregor and Mary Grant)
William Sands, b. ca. 1816, m. 1837, Clerkenwell, d. 1863, St. Luke's
Jesse Thorogood, b. ca. 1751, m. 1777, Shalford, d. 1826, Shalford

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Re: William Sands
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 16 May 18 19:08 BST (UK) »
Do you have the family in 1841?

Have you found anything of the niece Charlotte born abt 1835?
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Re: William Sands
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 16 May 18 19:13 BST (UK) »
In 1861 207/65/26 this family are living a couple of doors away

Ann Thompson   71 yrs
Richard Thompson 45 yrs toy hawker
William Thompson 27 yrs picture frame maker

I wonder if they are connected  :-\
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Re: William Sands
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 16 May 18 19:14 BST (UK) »
The couple aren't together in 1841 apparently. And I haven't been able to establish any facts about Charlotte or her parentage.

And possibly, that's an interesting connection!
Dead-end ancestors:

William Cartwright, d. 1910, Wigston
Lewis Lipman, b. ca. 1798 (son of John Lipman, late of Glasgow)
Simon McGrigor/McGregor/MacGregor, b. ca. 1789, m. 1811, Fodderty, d. 1859, Fodderty (parents Alexander MacGregor and Mary Grant)
William Sands, b. ca. 1816, m. 1837, Clerkenwell, d. 1863, St. Luke's
Jesse Thorogood, b. ca. 1751, m. 1777, Shalford, d. 1826, Shalford

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Re: William Sands
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 16 May 18 20:02 BST (UK) »
I think Charlotte, the niece, married Thomas Cain in 1860.
Her father shows as John.

In 1861 207/65/26

She is living next door to William and Mary and shows as born Manchester.
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