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Parish Registers: Quigley Powerscourt/Enniskerry
« on: Thursday 17 May 18 13:05 BST (UK) »
Hi,
Looking for any details of Eleanor QUIGLEY born 1860. Her father was James QUIGLEY - a farmer. The denomination was Church of Ireland.
She moved to Belfast to work as a school teacher (in CoI School) and married Robert CHAMBERS in 1886 in St Thomas's CoI Parish Church. On her marriage certificate she is listed as "Eleanor H Quigley". A death certificate, issued in Belfast in 1912, lists a "Eleanor HILLARD Quigley".
Looking at Griffiths, and other docs, there appear to be several James QUIGLEYS in and around Powerscourt/Enniskerry - but I can't locate a birth certificate for Eleanor.
Any help much appreciated.

Kind regards, Michael
Gorman (Laois); Maloney/Mullaney (Sligo); Creavan/Craven (Galway); Mallaghan; Carroll; McCaughan; Quigley (Wicklow); Cannon (Dublin); Benson (Monkstown)

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Re: Parish Registers: Quigley Powerscourt/Enniskerry
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 17 May 18 13:58 BST (UK) »

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Re: Parish Registers: Quigley Powerscourt/Enniskerry
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 17 May 18 15:23 BST (UK) »
Hmm interesting
Sarah Elizabeth Quigley dtr of James married Arthur Edwin Cullum an Englishman in 1903 at Powerscourt
Witness's were Thomas Quigley and Robert Chambers
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1903/10237/5725797.pdf

1911 in Kerry
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Kerry/Loughcurrane/Waterville_Town/103360/

1901
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Kerry/Caher/Garranebane/1403372/

unfortunately some of the Quigley births were registered as unknown

edited to add
The Cullum's son James Francis Edward died 1930 a Marine Officer
His administration was carried by Arthur E Cullum ,Waterville
search here
http://www.nationalarchives.ie/search-the-archives/

His death does not seem to be registered on the civil certs
however Family Search has his death 1930 as just Ireland no specific district
possibly died at sea ?

http://www.irishmariners.ie/searchdatabase.php?srch_surname=cullum&srch_forename=james&srch_identityno=&srch_yob=&submit=Search

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Re: Parish Registers: Quigley Powerscourt/Enniskerry
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 17 May 18 17:20 BST (UK) »

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Re: Parish Registers: Quigley Powerscourt/Enniskerry
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 17 May 18 18:45 BST (UK) »

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Re: Parish Registers: Quigley Powerscourt/Enniskerry
« Reply #5 on: Friday 18 May 18 12:55 BST (UK) »
Dathai -

Well you certainly live up to your name - that was quick and very helpful indeed - go raibh míle maith agat! I will now update the family records with the Enniskerry connection secure.

I saw a Mary Carr in the records but couldn't connect her with James Quigley - presumabley James's father is the (only) tenant farmer with land on the (Viscount) Powercourt estate - as listed in Griffiths. Wife is Eliza(beth) Hicks from Kilmolin (?)

I also notice that the draper's shop - run by Mary Quigley in Enniskerry - has a Wogan family next door but one - not the Wogan family surely!!

Robert Chambers witnessing the wedding of Cullum/Quigley was a big surprise. I wonder why Eleanor (as sister) didn't witness the certificate? Also Robert being there at all is surprising - Down to Wicklow would have been an onerous journey in those days - and speaks of a much closer connection between the Quigleys and Chambers than we had realised. (Perhaps the connection was a victim of partition - certainly the Quigley connection has not been really talked about or recognised - until now).

One other point on this. I notice that the wife of Thomas Quigley (Beresford Buckley) records her father as Allan Buckley - Steward (on marriage cert). The father of Robert Chambers was Joseph Chambers and he was also a Steward - the Chambers family having a number of properties leased from Viscount Londonderry of Mount Stewart fame in Newtownards/Comber, County Down. I wonder if there was some connection here between the Powerscourt and Mount Stewart estates (I know one of the daughters of Viscount Powerscourt married into the Londonderry family around this time...). All a bit vague - but intriguing..

Final point takes me back to Eleanor Quigley. If the 1912 death certificate in Belfast is her (Eleanor Hillard Chambers) I wonder who the Hillard family are - perhaps connected to the Carr family? (The Hillard/Hilliard name has been passed down the generations since).

And the question that really intrigues me... why would a young woman with a secure occupation and large family - living in the "prettiest village in Ireland" - venture north to work in the soot, grime and noise of industrial Belfast. She worked as a school teacher in St Mary Magdalene CoI School on Great Victoria Street and lived in a small terraced house in Fairview Street - opposite the Crumlin Road Gaol. It could not be more removed from leafy Enniskerry.

In later life she moved out of the centre to live on the Antrim Road -  a prosperous part of North Belfast. Robert Chambers became a builder and they had several children - including an Ireland rugby international.

However, many questions remain about how the Quigley and Chambers family became connected.

Many thanks indeed for your help! Kind regards, Michael

Gorman (Laois); Maloney/Mullaney (Sligo); Creavan/Craven (Galway); Mallaghan; Carroll; McCaughan; Quigley (Wicklow); Cannon (Dublin); Benson (Monkstown)

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Re: Parish Registers: Quigley Powerscourt/Enniskerry
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Re: Parish Registers: Quigley Powerscourt/Enniskerry
« Reply #7 on: Saturday 19 May 18 15:49 BST (UK) »
John Knox married Mary Quigley school mistress dtr of James in 1890
witnesses were possibly her father James and brother Thomas
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1890/10692/5897215.pdf

http://www.igp-web.com/IGPArchives/ire/wicklow/photos/tombstones/enniskerry5/target95.html


you may have read this  book Enniskerry Archives,Notes and Stories from the Village
http://www.rootschat.com/links/01m3b/

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Re: Parish Registers: Quigley Powerscourt/Enniskerry
« Reply #8 on: Monday 21 May 18 12:29 BST (UK) »
Possible connection to James Quigley and Elizabeth Hicks

Matthew Quigley born Dec 1866 to James and Mary Carr
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1867/03499/2286404.pdf

1901 married a carpenter
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Wicklow/Bray/Brennan_s_Parade/1811024/

1896 married Elizabeth Jane Osborne widow nee Stewart in Belfast
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1896/10505/5825935.pdf

John Osborne married Elizabeth Jane Stewart, Banbridge 1871
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1871/11358/8169752.pdf

appear to have had only one child Ellen Jane 1876
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1876/03036/2113245.pdf

note the cousin William Edward Quigley 1901
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Antrim/Shankhill/Agnes_Street/947543/

1911 with a brother John Morgan Quigley
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Dublin/Drumcondra/St__Brigid_s_Road_Upper/27102/

http://www.rootschat.com/links/01m3g/   baptisms

parents marriage 1873 John Quigley to Catherine Lowham
https://churchrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/display-pdf.jsp?pdfName=d-511-3-2-030

1901
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Dublin/Drumcondra/Glenarm_Avenue_and_Villas/1272362/

it was possibly the David on the above census that died in 1901

possible death for John 1898 in Carlingford Road born circa 1856 ?
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1893/06012/4711008.pdf


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