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Re: Advice required
« Reply #18 on: Friday 18 May 18 05:47 BST (UK) »
OK then - I believe the only full index available for consultation in Wales is at Bridgend Reference & Information Library, but do check in case that information is out of date.

Edit: a more recent name may be Bridgend (or Ty’r Ardd) Local & Family History Centre ???
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

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Re: Advice required
« Reply #19 on: Friday 18 May 18 05:47 BST (UK) »
What would be my best avenue for obtaining his DOB and death ?,

1939 Register for DoB then using his age to find his death?

Annie
South Uist, Inverness-shire, Scotland:- Bowie, Campbell, Cumming, Currie, MacDonald, MacInnes, MacIntyre, MacKinnon, Steele, Walker

Ireland:- Cullen, Flannigan (Derry), Donahoe/Donaghue (variants) (Cork), McCrate (Tipperary), Mellon, Tol(l)and (Donegal & Tyrone)

Newcastle-on-Tyne/Durham (Northumberland):- Harrison, Jude, Kemp, Lunn, Mellon, Robson, Stirling

Kettering, Northampton:- MacKinnon

Canada:- Callaghan, MacKinnon, MacPhee

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« Reply #20 on: Friday 18 May 18 05:48 BST (UK) »
What would be my best avenue for obtaining his DOB and death ?,

1939 Register for DoB then using his age to find his death?

Annie

You won’t find his entry on the 1939 Register if (as it appears) he has been alive until recently - it will have been redacted.
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

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Re: Advice required
« Reply #21 on: Friday 18 May 18 05:52 BST (UK) »
Many thanks to all, it has been a very enlightening night so far.
James, Jinks - Stoke On Trent,  Richards - Llandilofawr, Wilding- Hereford, Underwood, Sitch, Thorne, Day all West Ham, and Leytonstone. .

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« Reply #22 on: Friday 18 May 18 05:55 BST (UK) »
You won’t find his entry on the 1939 Register if (as it appears) he has been alive until recently - it will have been redacted.

Yes avm, you're right but from the marriage date & anyone who's not redacted it may be easy to work out a rough date?

Annie
South Uist, Inverness-shire, Scotland:- Bowie, Campbell, Cumming, Currie, MacDonald, MacInnes, MacIntyre, MacKinnon, Steele, Walker

Ireland:- Cullen, Flannigan (Derry), Donahoe/Donaghue (variants) (Cork), McCrate (Tipperary), Mellon, Tol(l)and (Donegal & Tyrone)

Newcastle-on-Tyne/Durham (Northumberland):- Harrison, Jude, Kemp, Lunn, Mellon, Robson, Stirling

Kettering, Northampton:- MacKinnon

Canada:- Callaghan, MacKinnon, MacPhee

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« Reply #23 on: Friday 18 May 18 05:58 BST (UK) »
You won’t find his entry on the 1939 Register if (as it appears) he has been alive until recently - it will have been redacted.

Yes avm, you're right but from the marriage date & anyone who's not redacted it may be easy to work out a rough date?

Annie

Hmm confused now !!!
James, Jinks - Stoke On Trent,  Richards - Llandilofawr, Wilding- Hereford, Underwood, Sitch, Thorne, Day all West Ham, and Leytonstone. .

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« Reply #24 on: Friday 18 May 18 05:58 BST (UK) »
You won’t find his entry on the 1939 Register if (as it appears) he has been alive until recently - it will have been redacted.

Yes avm, you're right but from the marriage date & anyone who's not redacted it may be easy to work out a rough date?


We know his birth was registered in 1921 and he married for the first time in 1943.

I have found his birth family and he isn’t with them in 1939 (assuming the children are in date order, which they seem to be) - the only redacted one is a younger sister.
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

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« Reply #25 on: Friday 18 May 18 19:03 BST (UK) »
Hi,

Are you sure that the John J W THORNE born in 1921 in West Ham is the right one? I ask because I found this marriage which would also fit that gentleman,

John J W THORNE    Sep Q 1944    Brentford    3a  747 
Annie G COUSINS

I can't see any obvious children for this couple, but of course she could have been divorced and their children would be under her maiden name.


Do you have John and Valerie's marriage cert. to see what his occupation was, his father's name and possibly his age?

Sorry for asking so many questions but I think it's better to be sure rather than follow the wrong family.

Regards,
Daisy

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« Reply #26 on: Friday 18 May 18 19:17 BST (UK) »
Hi,

Are you sure that the John J W THORNE born in 1921 in West Ham is the right one? I ask because I found this marriage which would also fit that gentleman,

John J W THORNE    Sep Q 1944    Brentford    3a  747 
Annie G COUSINS

I can't see any obvious children for this couple, but of course she could have been divorced and their children would be under her maiden name.


Do you have John and Valerie's marriage cert. to see what his occupation was, his father's name and possibly his age?

Sorry for asking so many questions but I think it's better to be sure rather than follow the wrong family.

Regards,
Daisy

This Brentford one was (or claimed to have been) born 5 Jan 1874, and was already with the widowed Annie “Couzens” in 1939, five years or so before their marriage.

His likely death: Mar qtr 1955 Ealing, aged 81.

The associated probate record shows his full name as John Jacob William Thorne.
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)