Advice required

[Jackarmy1]

Many apologies, but I've just read my posts back and my Grandmothers maiden name was Richards not Wilding. Wilding was my Great Grandmothers maiden name. My brain is going into overload at the moment. Many thanks once again.

[avm228]

So the basics for John J W Thorne are:

Birth registered Mar qtr 1921 West Ham, with mother’s maiden name Day

Married Dec qtr 1943 Neath to Valerie J Richards

Followed by 2? children in Neath, 1944 and 1946?  (Not naming as may still be living).

[avm228]

There is a possible second marriage for him in his birth county of Essex in 1955 (see FreeBMD).

If that is him then it looks likely from electoral rolls that he was still living in Dagenham until fairly recently (abt 2013) and his second wife may still be living.

[avm228]

Actually probate records reveal a possible death for his second wife in 2016.

[Jackarmy1]

Hi there, yes the 2 children in 1944 & 46 are my Uncle , deceased 2014, and my mother who is still alive. I've picked up on the second marriage overnight thanks to the excellent FreeBMD as recommended on here earlier. I'm not able to locate a notice of death, I think I found his second wife who deceased 2016, again in Dagenham. Is it possible he is still with us as I'm unable to find a record of his death. He'd be 97.  I've also found out it looks like he had 2 children through his 2nd marriage, born in 1955 and 56, these would be half siblings to my mother, so of obvious interest.

Many many thanks for all your efforts so far.

[avm228]

I think it unlikely he is still with us as he stops being listed on the electoral roll in 2013 and his wife is still on it at their long-term address after that.

Possible I suppose that he moved out (e.g. into a care home) but it looks more likely that he died.  I see that probate over his (presumed) wife’s estate was granted in Cardiff; not sure of the significance of that.

[Jackarmy1]

What would be my best avenue for obtaining his DOB and death ?,

Probate granted in Cardiff seems a little odd.

[avm228]

For deaths as recent as this you have to consult (or ask someone else to consult) the full indexes which are available to view at a (very) few large libraries.

Are you in the UK?

Once you find the death, that certificate should provide the birthdate.

[Jackarmy1]

Yes, in Swansea.