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Re: Goddard dead end
« Reply #9 on: Saturday 19 May 18 23:00 BST (UK) »
Sadly the link leads to a pay wall for those who aren't with FindMyPast!
He's not baptized at St Andrew according to the original image on ancestry.

Speaking of St Andrew, there's a burial there, 20 October 1850
John Goddard
age 70
abode Ponders End

Is that him?

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Re: Goddard dead end
« Reply #10 on: Saturday 19 May 18 23:14 BST (UK) »
If it is him - he died before the 1851 census so how has it been established that the baptism in Enfield is the right one?
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Re: Goddard dead end
« Reply #11 on: Saturday 19 May 18 23:18 BST (UK) »
The FindMyPast baptism is again just an index, Enfield, doesn’t give Church or parents but is clearly a separate entry from the burial

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Re: Goddard dead end
« Reply #12 on: Saturday 19 May 18 23:27 BST (UK) »
Hi
It's probably the same one as is on FamilySearch
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NJ58-1V5

It's possible they made some indexing error, I don't know.

If it is him - he died before the 1851 census so how has it been established that the baptism in Enfield is the right one?

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Re: Goddard dead end
« Reply #13 on: Saturday 19 May 18 23:27 BST (UK) »
Philimores marriages Middlesex / Enfield
John Goddard to Martha WHITEBREAD 21 dec 1785
John to Joana RAY 20 June 1563
John to Mary BURGESS 17 May 1752
John to Mary CORRALL 12 June 1757

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Re: Goddard dead end
« Reply #14 on: Saturday 19 May 18 23:36 BST (UK) »
Yes, the March baptism is correct. The actual record I have viewed and it names no parents. The 1850 burial is him and this age at death gives 1780 as his year of birth. He appears only on the 1841 Census in Enfield, and was born in the county of Middlesex according to this. His year of birth is 1782 - 1786 on this record.
Lipman family of Aldgate - ends with Lewis Lipman (d. 1871, Bethnal Green), son of John Lipman 'late of Glasgow' (1856)
McGregor family of Fodderty - ends with Alexander McGregor (b. 1765, Fodderty), son of Murdoch McGregor and Kate Stewart

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Re: Goddard dead end
« Reply #15 on: Saturday 19 May 18 23:40 BST (UK) »
When you looked at the actual record, were parents named on other entries?

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« Reply #16 on: Saturday 19 May 18 23:45 BST (UK) »
I don't recall  :'( the film is viewable on FamilySearch but I can't remember exactly where. It was still at St. Andrew if memory serves.
Lipman family of Aldgate - ends with Lewis Lipman (d. 1871, Bethnal Green), son of John Lipman 'late of Glasgow' (1856)
McGregor family of Fodderty - ends with Alexander McGregor (b. 1765, Fodderty), son of Murdoch McGregor and Kate Stewart

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Re: Goddard dead end
« Reply #17 on: Saturday 19 May 18 23:48 BST (UK) »
The online viewable record:

https://www.familysearch.org/search/film/004011602?cat=119315

Seen on page 98.
 
Lipman family of Aldgate - ends with Lewis Lipman (d. 1871, Bethnal Green), son of John Lipman 'late of Glasgow' (1856)
McGregor family of Fodderty - ends with Alexander McGregor (b. 1765, Fodderty), son of Murdoch McGregor and Kate Stewart