Joseph Kent, Master Mariner

[heywood]

Elizabeth, her children and her father are here in 1871 3796/16/24 living in Toxteth but there is no daughter, Kate.

[nikitah]

Thank you all so much , best I've had in along time, not sure about the Elizabeth, that doesn't seem to fit,  their eldest daughter was Anne, and second daughter Edith Alice but a big definite for the Joseph Henry, they named  their first son  that. I'll note what you have all found and will be back, I have a update nattering at me. Many thanks Nikitah.

[nikitah]

Well I'm back, some update . Found this, www.theshipslist.com for anyone looking for marriages at sea, some captains names but no Kent. I thought I might be onto something in 1881 census with Frederick and Albert born Manchester nephews to John Kent,  born Manchester , did a search and their parents where William and Elizabeth, another dead end, then a William Kent  boarder age 20  a sailor born Ireland, living Liverpool, unfortunately that went nowhere back to the drawing board. If I knew for definite the J R Huddart and Katherine Huddart are mine I would be tempted to get there death certificates , at the moment there are too many ifs, Kate never uses Katherine and well what can I say about John or Robert or Huddart or Huthart many thanks Nikitah. 

[nikitah]

Thanks to Grahams suggestion , I now have from Ancestry, Joseph Kent's masters certificates, he was born in Swansea, 28 January 1831, that then leads me to his parents, William Edward Kent and Elizabeth, so far so good, now I can't find a marriage for the parents or anything on early census that fit, by my reckoning , he would only be 10 in 1841 so would expect him to be at home with William and Elizabeth, until I break down this wall I can't prove or disprove if this is my Joseph, forgot to say his number is 24923, any further help in breaking down this wall will be much appreciated. Nikitah

[Mabel Bagshawe]

1841 - Quay, Swansea. Parents not born in county, but children were

W Edwd Kent    38 - pawnbroker
Elizth Kent    38
Elizabeth Kent    1
W Edwd Kent    12
Josh Kent    10
Geo Kent    8
Jno Kent    6
Chas Kent    4

There's a newspaper report from 1847 noting that William Edward junior was washed overboard off Cape Horn the previous summer

[Mabel Bagshawe]

Haven't found any Kent births in Swansea yet to establish mother's maiden name

1851

William E Kent    48 - b Millbrook, Cornwall. Auctioneer
Elizabeth Kent    48 - b Bristol
George B Kent    18 - b Swansea, apprentice seaman
John S Kent    16 - b Swansea, writing clerk
Elizabeth Kent    10 -  Brecon
George Dawkins    52 - lodger

HO107, 2466, 93, 11

This has helped find Elizabeth's birth. Mother's maiden name is Thomas

[Mabel Bagshawe]

some details of siblings' full names

Joseph Kent    b 28 Mar 1831 baptised    1 Jan 1834    Saint Mary,Swansea

George Beale Kent b 13 Jan 1833  baptised 1 Jan 1834    

John Joseph Stephens Kent      baptised 14 Dec 1834
   
Charles Frederick Kent b 4 Dec 1836 baptised 15 Mar 1837    


By 1861 William Edward is a schoolmaster in Bishopston, and daughter Elizabeth is a teacher

[nikitah]

Thanks Mabel,you are too fast for me , this looks like the Joseph Kent whose certificates I have and they too like messing about with names, i.e. William Edward is known as W Edward, Joseph, apparently was born John Joseph Stephens Kent, also known as Josh, so even if they are not mine they certainly have that in common, I may have found a death for William E Kent at Gower1866, so if this is him and he was a schoolmaster there maybe a report somewhere, I just hope this is all mine and not a red herring after all your hard work, many, many thanks,Nikitah

[Mabel Bagshawe]

Joseph Kent and John Joseph Stephens Kent are separate people - Joseph b 1831, John b 1834

They are both on 1841: Joseph is abbreviated as Josh, and John is abbreviated listed as Jno. John you will see is still at home in 1851 as a clerk