Author Topic: Caroline Caunter née Bartlett wed Charles Edwin Bennett in Dec 1861. Then what?  (Read 799 times)

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Hi again, really a puzzle Charles Edwin Bennett/Edwin Hossack, as in 1861 census shown as lodger with William Bartlett and family by the looks of it, is a Charles Bennett 20 occ Engineer b Manchester, the same as the Edwin Hossack Iocated in 1851?
Census ref RG09/108/4/12
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I see a death record for an Edwin Hossack in 1887 in Victoria, Australia with father John and spouse Maria Morrison.
A private tree supports this record and it appears he married Maria after Caroline.
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OK so Caroline in fact married the same man who was using different surnames in 1861 & 1862,  he is consistent with a father called John occ Engineer, but why therefore did Caroline die as a Caunter and not a Bennett/Hossack
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OK so Caroline in fact married the same man who was using different surnames in 1861 & 1862,  he is consistent with a father called John occ Engineer, but why therefore did Caroline die as a Caunter and not a Bennett/Hossack
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Presumably he left her or vice versa? What puzzles me more is why she seems to have married him twice ???
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bedfordshire - farr, carver,handley, godfrey, newell, bird, emmerton, underwood,ancell
buckinghamshire- pain
cambridgeshire- bird, carver
hertfordshire- conisbee, bean, saunders, quick,godfrey
derbyshire- allsop, noon
devon - griffin, love, rapsey
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somerset- rendall, churchill
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Hi again, the two girls on the 1851 census Prittlewell with John Hobart Caunter and Caroline were Alice aged 4 and Blanche 1, cannot locate birth registration of Alice, but were they in 1861:-

Alice COUNTER 14 b Kennington/Kensington at St Marys Hall, Eastern Road, Brighton
Census ref RG09/593/20/34

Blanche Caunter 10 b Prittlewell
Clergy Orphan Asylum, St Johns Wood Road,
Census ref RG09/89/34/60
What happened to them?
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Edit I did what you do and and a fairly well researched tree tells me both girls become a Governess with Alice's death being in the UK unmarried and Blanche marrying in South America and returning after the death of her husband to Fulham RG12/46/147/60 with daughter Blanche Nicol, then it states next she is in America aged 108?
The Alice death is also rubbish she also married in South America?!
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Re: Caroline Caunter née Bartlett wed Charles Edwin Bennett in Dec 1861. Then what?
« Reply #32 on: Wednesday 23 May 18 00:59 BST (UK) »
"Name:    Alice Caunter
Gender:    Female
Birth Date:    29 Apr 1846
Baptism Date:    11 Jun 1846
Baptism Place:    Old Church,Saint Pancras,London,England
Father:    John Hobart Caunter
Mother:    Caroline
FHL Film Number:    598166, 598167, 598168"
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Alice married Ewart Carthew in Montevideo on 31st December 1873.
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I haven't seen Alice's birth record yet either. I wonder if she is recorded as Alice CARTER born in June Quarter in St Pancras vol I page 330?
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Re: Caroline Caunter née Bartlett wed Charles Edwin Bennett in Dec 1861. Then what?
« Reply #33 on: Wednesday 23 May 18 15:56 BST (UK) »
Hi again, still attempting to sort out the Bennett/Hossack problem, this is possibly the Edwin Hossack who married Caroline Caunter in 1851 census:-

John Hossack 39 occ Engineer etc b Liverpool
Jane 39 b Liverpool
Ann J 18
George 16
Elizabeth 14
John 13
EDWIN 10
Emma 7
Walter 5
Alfred 2
Earle 0
Children all born Manchester although I have located births registered in Preston / Blackburn & Warrington with mmn Rawlinson
Residing at Canal Street, Manchester
Census ref HO107/2227 ( Water damaged)
What happened from 1851 to this family?
John Hossack married Jane Rawlinson 8th November 1830 St Michael on Toxteth Park, Liverpool.
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EDIT Possibly in Bow 1861 census RG09/303/42/9
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Re: Caroline Caunter née Bartlett wed Charles Edwin Bennett in Dec 1861. Then what?
« Reply #34 on: Thursday 24 May 18 03:24 BST (UK) »
Thanks so much for your persistence Keyboard.
I have to concentrate on my Thomas tree - and my birthday weekend, but rest assured that I am still adding info to my tree.
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Re: Caroline Caunter née Bartlett wed Charles Edwin Bennett in Dec 1861. Then what?
« Reply #35 on: Thursday 24 May 18 10:46 BST (UK) »
still attempting to sort out the Bennett/Hossack problem,

So am I, but it remains a mystery for all my burrowing so far  ??? :D
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bedfordshire - farr, carver,handley, godfrey, newell, bird, emmerton, underwood,ancell
buckinghamshire- pain
cambridgeshire- bird, carver
hertfordshire- conisbee, bean, saunders, quick,godfrey
derbyshire- allsop, noon
devon - griffin, love, rapsey
dorset- rendall, gale
somerset- rendall, churchill
surrey/middlesex - douglas, conisbee, childs, lyon groombridge