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Re: Is this just a case of enumerator error?
« Reply #18 on: Tuesday 29 May 18 09:08 BST (UK) »
I haven't been able to find a Maria Mitchell in later censuses.

I've attached James' birth or baptism entry - only one date given. Seems to say bo ie born? The only entry on the whole page that has both birth and baptism dates is for twins. If it was his birth date, then he wouldn't appear in the 1851 census …

Yes, St Nunans was a transcription error. Beveridge was transcribed as "Berendge"!
England:
Durham: COULSON, FENWICK, HUNTER, LOWES, NAYLOR, ROBSON
Norfolk: DEWING, OUGHTON, TAYLOR,
Lancashire: TWEDDLE
Ireland: KEATING, KIRBY, Limerick; NELSON, Donegal
Scotland: BENNIE, Glasgow; COOK, Renfrewshire; HENDERSON, Alloa/Dundee; HUNTER, Glasgow; KIRKWOOD, Alloa; LAMONT, Dalkeith; YOUNG, Glasgow
Switzerland: VOSTI, DELUBINI
Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

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Re: Is this just a case of enumerator error?
« Reply #19 on: Tuesday 29 May 18 09:14 BST (UK) »
Oops, my mistake. The entry that has two dates is for siblings, one bo 5 April 1848 and the other bo 30 April 1851. So James Mitchell must have been born on 3 April 1851, ie after the census.
England:
Durham: COULSON, FENWICK, HUNTER, LOWES, NAYLOR, ROBSON
Norfolk: DEWING, OUGHTON, TAYLOR,
Lancashire: TWEDDLE
Ireland: KEATING, KIRBY, Limerick; NELSON, Donegal
Scotland: BENNIE, Glasgow; COOK, Renfrewshire; HENDERSON, Alloa/Dundee; HUNTER, Glasgow; KIRKWOOD, Alloa; LAMONT, Dalkeith; YOUNG, Glasgow
Switzerland: VOSTI, DELUBINI
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Re: Is this just a case of enumerator error?
« Reply #20 on: Tuesday 29 May 18 09:16 BST (UK) »
Yes, that is quite clearly bo: so he cannot have been in the 1851 census at all.

Could Maria's age in 1851 have been mistranscribed? SP indexes her as aged 0, but could the enumerator have written weeks instead of years by mistake?
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Re: Is this just a case of enumerator error?
« Reply #21 on: Tuesday 29 May 18 09:17 BST (UK) »
Oops, my mistake. The entry that has two dates is for siblings, one bo 5 April 1848 and the other bo 30 April 1851. So James Mitchell must have been born on 3 April 1851, ie after the census.
Yes.

So if Maria ever existed, she was born before her parents' marriage.
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Re: Is this just a case of enumerator error?
« Reply #22 on: Tuesday 29 May 18 09:44 BST (UK) »
The 1851 image (attached) says weeks but I guess the enumerator could have the age wrong.

No Maria Mitchell or Kirkwood between 1849 and 1851 born anywhere in Scotland on SP.

So the most likely conclusion is that Maria is an error in transcription and belongs to someone else.
England:
Durham: COULSON, FENWICK, HUNTER, LOWES, NAYLOR, ROBSON
Norfolk: DEWING, OUGHTON, TAYLOR,
Lancashire: TWEDDLE
Ireland: KEATING, KIRBY, Limerick; NELSON, Donegal
Scotland: BENNIE, Glasgow; COOK, Renfrewshire; HENDERSON, Alloa/Dundee; HUNTER, Glasgow; KIRKWOOD, Alloa; LAMONT, Dalkeith; YOUNG, Glasgow
Switzerland: VOSTI, DELUBINI
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Re: Is this just a case of enumerator error?
« Reply #23 on: Tuesday 29 May 18 10:22 BST (UK) »
The most likely conclusion is that Maria is an error in transcription and belongs to someone else.
Indeed. She certainly can't be James' elder sister if he was born 3 days after the census.
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Re: Is this just a case of enumerator error?
« Reply #24 on: Wednesday 30 May 18 02:46 BST (UK) »
And that's the conclusion I'll run with. Many thanks for all the feedback :-)
England:
Durham: COULSON, FENWICK, HUNTER, LOWES, NAYLOR, ROBSON
Norfolk: DEWING, OUGHTON, TAYLOR,
Lancashire: TWEDDLE
Ireland: KEATING, KIRBY, Limerick; NELSON, Donegal
Scotland: BENNIE, Glasgow; COOK, Renfrewshire; HENDERSON, Alloa/Dundee; HUNTER, Glasgow; KIRKWOOD, Alloa; LAMONT, Dalkeith; YOUNG, Glasgow
Switzerland: VOSTI, DELUBINI
Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk