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« on: Saturday 26 May 18 11:13 BST (UK) »
Hello

can anyone help decipher this text as it may be evidence of an illegitimate child that could break down the brick wall on this tree

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Re: illegitimate child
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 26 May 18 11:20 BST (UK) »
This might be a little easier to read
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Re: illegitimate child
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 26 May 18 11:25 BST (UK) »
1844, July 2nd. John Wright junr residing at Hillhead of Corsindae and Jessy Sherriffs residing at Cartorfolds had an illegitimate son baptized at Thainstone in the parish of Kintore by the Revd Mr Simpson, free Church Minister of Kintore before these witnesses viz John Stephen and George Stephen both residing at Thainstone in the said parish of Kintore. Named James. Born 26th April 1844.

Thainstone http://www.geograph.org.uk/gridref/NJ7718,

Hillhead of Corsindae
http://maps.nls.uk/geo/explore/#zoom=16&lat=57.1624&lon=-2.5153&layers=5&b=1

Jessy Sherrifs, aged 15, is at Cartars, Midmar in 1841. This is very close to Corsindae, as you can see from the map.

In 1851 James Wright, 6, grandson, is in the household of John Wright and his wife Magdaline at Hillhead in Midmar. I note with interest that John, son of John Wright and Magdaline Jamieson, was baptised in Inverurie on 27 April 1823. They also had Anne, baptised 1832, and Isaac, baptised 1836, who exactly match the other two members of the household in 1851.

In 1841 John Sr and Magdalen Wright were at Ardybrown, Chapel of Garioch, with three Wright and two Jameson children.

You can look at transcription of these censuses at https://www.freecen.org.uk/cgi/search.pl
Never trust anything you find online (especially submitted trees and transcriptions on Ancestry, MyHeritage, FindMyPast and other commercial web sites) unless it's an image of an original document - and even then be wary because errors can and do occur.

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Re: illegitimate child
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 26 May 18 11:28 BST (UK) »
Scotlandspeople has transcribed the name as Wright
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Re: illegitimate child
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 26 May 18 18:39 BST (UK) »
This might be a little easier to read

wish I had know how to do that! thank you!!

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« Reply #5 on: Saturday 26 May 18 18:40 BST (UK) »
1844, July 2nd. John Wright junr residing at Hillhead of Corsindae and Jessy Sherriffs residing at Cartorfolds had an illegitimate son baptized at Thainstone in the parish of Kintore by the Revd Mr Simpson, free Church Minister of Kintore before these witnesses viz John Stephen and George Stephen both residing at Thainstone in the said parish of Kintore. Named James. Born 26th April 1844.

Thainstone http://www.geograph.org.uk/gridref/NJ7718,

Hillhead of Corsindae
http://maps.nls.uk/geo/explore/#zoom=16&lat=57.1624&lon=-2.5153&layers=5&b=1

Jessy Sherrifs, aged 15, is at Cartars, Midmar in 1841. This is very close to Corsindae, as you can see from the map.

In 1851 James Wright, 6, grandson, is in the household of John Wright and his wife Magdaline at Hillhead in Midmar. I note with interest that John, son of John Wright and Magdaline Jamieson, was baptised in Inverurie on 27 April 1823. They also had Anne, baptised 1832, and Isaac, baptised 1836, who exactly match the other two members of the household in 1851.

In 1841 John Sr and Magdalen Wright were at Ardybrown, Chapel of Garioch, with three Wright and two Jameson children.

You can look at transcription of these censuses at https://www.freecen.org.uk/cgi/search.pl

thank you so very very much for this fabulous information. so much more that I could have expected. I really appreciate your time thank you!  :)

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Re: illegitimate child
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 26 May 18 19:48 BST (UK) »
 ???

enclosed is the extract of James marriage record. It shows a different mother - possibly his fathers wife. What do the initials MS next to her name ? cathrine? Sawson Deceased.

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Re: illegitimate child
« Reply #7 on: Saturday 26 May 18 19:55 BST (UK) »
M.S= Maiden Surname. I would suggest Lawson not Sawson was her maiden surname.

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Dent (Haltwhistle and Sacriston), Bell and Jetson (Haltwhistle), Postle, Ward, Longstaff, Purvis, Manners, Parnaby and Hardy (Co. Durham), Kennedy and McRobert (Banffshire), Reid(Bathgate), Watson (Wemyss), Graham (Libberton), Sandilands (Carmichael), Munro (Dingwall)

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Re: illegitimate child
« Reply #8 on: Saturday 26 May 18 19:59 BST (UK) »
Makes sense now you say it but I had not seen that before. Many thanks and for pointing out my error - important to get it right.

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