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Hi all, I'm looking for death cert of my gguncle Kia ,aubers ridge 090515 any ideas?
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Re: Irishman serving 2RMF kia France 090515 where can I get his death cert
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 27 May 18 23:57 BST (UK) »
http://www.researchingww1.co.uk/how-to-order-a-death-certificate might be useful.
I've never used that site, I generally get the information from the Commonwealth War Graves Commission website (CWGC) https://www.cwgc.org/

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Re: Irishman serving 2RMF kia France 090515 where can I get his death cert
« Reply #2 on: Monday 28 May 18 00:09 BST (UK) »
Thanks Philipsearching I will try that, I have been on the CWGC site to establish where he is buried but would love to know more about the morning of his death as he has a mid in the gazette 010116,
And I believe a previous MID. Unfortunately his regiment the munster fusiliers were disbanded in 1922 so the records are difficult to access
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Re: Irishman serving 2RMF kia France 090515 where can I get his death cert
« Reply #3 on: Monday 28 May 18 10:15 BST (UK) »
The battalion war diary http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/C14052741 (also on Ancestry) carries a detailed account of the Battle of Aubers Ridge noting that other rank casualties were 50 killed, 191 wounded and 129 missing.
The entry for 15 Jan 1916 lists the honours and mentions related to the battle with no detail other than the names.  Guesswork says he is Private Barry but I may have got the wrong one!  With his name one may be able to find another MID.

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I am Zoe Northeast, granddaughter of Maximilian Double.
 
It is with great difficulty I share with you that in the early hours of 07 August 2021, Maximilian passed away unexpectedly but peacefully.

With deep sadness,
Zoe



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Re: Irishman serving 2RMF kia France 090515 where can I get his death cert
« Reply #4 on: Monday 28 May 18 10:19 BST (UK) »
Should have added that the death cert is likely to say only killed in action, it will give no detail.

MaxD
I am Zoe Northeast, granddaughter of Maximilian Double.
 
It is with great difficulty I share with you that in the early hours of 07 August 2021, Maximilian passed away unexpectedly but peacefully.

With deep sadness,
Zoe



Double  Essex/Suffolk
Randle/Millington Warwicks
Sokser/Klingler Austria/Croatia

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Re: Irishman serving 2RMF kia France 090515 where can I get his death cert
« Reply #5 on: Monday 28 May 18 14:39 BST (UK) »
Thanks MaxD, I am wondering where first of all the death cert is, is it in the GRO in the UK of in the Irish GRO?. His name O'Donoghue Andrew Sjt. 5459
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Re: Irishman serving 2RMF kia France 090515 where can I get his death cert
« Reply #6 on: Monday 28 May 18 14:53 BST (UK) »
ROI was part of the UK WW1, so UK GRO
Leicestershire:Chamberlain, Dakin, Wilkinson, Moss, Cook, Welland, Dobson, Roper,Palfreman, Squires, Hames, Goddard, Topliss, Twells,Bacon.
Northamps:Sykes, Harris, Rice,Knowles.
Rutland:Clements, Dalby, Osbourne, Durance, Smith,Christian, Royce, Richardson,Oakham, Dewey,Newbold,Cox,Chamberlaine,Brow, Cooper, Bloodworth,Clarke
Durham/Yorks:Woodend, Watson,Parker, Dowser
Suffolk/Norfolk:Groom, Coleman, Kemp, Barnard, Alden,Blomfield,Smith,Howes,Knight,Kett,Fryston
Lincolnshire:Clements, Woodend

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Re: Irishman serving 2RMF kia France 090515 where can I get his death cert
« Reply #7 on: Monday 28 May 18 15:38 BST (UK) »
From GRO  War Death Army Other Ranks (1914-1921)

Andrew O'Donoghue    Year 1915, page 429, line 9.    Death year 1915, service no. 4/5459
Howard , Viney , Kingsman, Pain/e, Rainer/ Rayner, Barham, George, Wakeling (Catherine), Vicary (Frederick)   all LDN area/suburbs  Ottley/ MDX,
Henman/ KNT   Gandy/LDN before 1830  Burgess/LDN
Barham/SFK   Rainer/CAN (Toronto) Gillians/CAN  Sturgeon/CAN (Vancouver)
Bailey/LDN Page/KNT   Paling/WA (var)



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Re: Irishman serving 2RMF kia France 090515 where can I get his death cert
« Reply #8 on: Monday 28 May 18 15:48 BST (UK) »
I guessed wrong!  He is among those listed in the diary on 15 Jan 1916 as MID for the Aubers Ridge.

The diary actually lists him as missing rather than killed in action.  The CWGC site confirms that he was found after the war, identified by his clothing and boots and the name on his watch and reburied where he now lies.  It also gives his company (B Coy) which helps when one reads the diary.

MaxD
I am Zoe Northeast, granddaughter of Maximilian Double.
 
It is with great difficulty I share with you that in the early hours of 07 August 2021, Maximilian passed away unexpectedly but peacefully.

With deep sadness,
Zoe



Double  Essex/Suffolk
Randle/Millington Warwicks
Sokser/Klingler Austria/Croatia