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Re: Appropriate or inappropriate old sayings
« Reply #27 on: Monday 28 May 18 23:46 BST (UK) »
CLOOTIE DUMPLING

Whit ye need
Punna self raisin floor
Punna currants an a haunfa o’ raisins
Quartera punna suet
Haufa pun granulatit sugar
Fower wee teaspoonsfa o’ mixed spice
A big pincha saut, some mulk

How ye dae it
Rummle up the hale jing-bang in the boul, addin a wee tate mulk so’s ye get a dough that’s stiff an no runny
Tim some bilin watter oot the kettle inty the fit o’ the basin an’
Spread the cloot oan top o’ the watter
Coup the hale o’ yur dough oot the bowl an’ on tae the cloot in the basin. Draw the coarners o’ the clootie gather an’ tie wi’ the string. Don’t tie the string too tight or the dumpling might burst efter swelling upan’ ye’d be in a hangaua mess. Noo ye’ve a big bag o’d dough about the size o’ a fitba. Next ye pit a plate in the fit o’ the big poat. Then ye gently lower the dumpling oan tae the plate.
Efter theat poor as much bilin’ watter intae the poat as will cover yur dumpling.
Efter a’ this cairry-oan ye’ll mibbe want a cuppa tea an’ a fag or evena wee dram. Anyway whitivvur ye dae don’t let the dumplin simmer fur mair than three-an-a-hauf hoors. Efter that time wheech it oot the poat an oan tae a plate. Peel aff the cloot an’ therr ye hauv a dish fit tae set afore a dizzen Royal Thingamys!
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Re: Appropriate or inappropriate old sayings
« Reply #28 on: Tuesday 29 May 18 10:13 BST (UK) »
Oh wow -- Rootschatters are wonderful!

 In these last few messages I have been taught a new Irish word -- 'devarting'. My mother in law was from Westmeath - (she must never have 'devarted' as she never used that word) ---- reminded of Vimto -- (I didn't realise that wasn't a countrywide drink) ----- and also had a Scottish cookery lesson!

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Re: Appropriate or inappropriate old sayings
« Reply #29 on: Tuesday 29 May 18 10:23 BST (UK) »
jaybeinz, can just smell it! A slice of it fried the next day is my fav'  ;D

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Re: Appropriate or inappropriate old sayings
« Reply #30 on: Tuesday 29 May 18 11:41 BST (UK) »
My mother in law was from Westmeath - (she must never have 'devarted' as she never used that word)
My grandmother was from Westmeath too - also never 'devarted' but talked about 'mortages' [mortgage] & 'fillums' [films].

What a hoot your recipe is jaybelnz, loved the bit about needing a wee dram. I once made a vegetarian cloutie dumpling for my workmates at Perth Royal Infirmary - there were no complaints so I must have done it right!!
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Re: Appropriate or inappropriate old sayings
« Reply #31 on: Wednesday 30 May 18 03:47 BST (UK) »
You like CLOOTIE Dumpling then???  I  ;D ;D I've actually never eaten it, as per the recipe,  as I don't like raisins or sultanas. My Grandmother and Mum both made the full fruit version, but a couple of small ones without the fruit also went " Inta the post" - just for me.

My Dad and my 2 brothers loved the fruit recipe version, and would also fry up the leftovers!  They did the same with Christmas Cake, but I got to eat the lovely Christmas Cake icing! 

There's only one kind of fruit cake that I will eat and enjoy. It has sultanas and tinned fruit salad in the recipe!  Very Yummy! 😜
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Re: Appropriate or inappropriate old sayings
« Reply #32 on: Thursday 31 May 18 23:04 BST (UK) »
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Re: Appropriate or inappropriate old sayings
« Reply #33 on: Friday 01 June 18 10:17 BST (UK) »
It was never said directly to me, but my Mum told me there was an old Scottish saying - "ye'll get Ye'er heid in ye'er honds and Ye'er teeth tae play with"!  Ouch - that sounds a bit rough! 😜

I was lucky enough when I visited Scotland and was able to have recorded one of my elderly Scottish relatives reading the Clootie Dumpling recipe out in her lovely Scottish Accent!  We had to do it twice, because she kept laughing, but I have it on a CD!  Haven't had it out for years, but now I'm feeling it's time to dig it out and have a laugh.  ;D ;D ;D
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Re: Appropriate or inappropriate old sayings
« Reply #34 on: Friday 01 June 18 10:56 BST (UK) »
Back to never cast a clout before May is out

we always took that to mean you shouldn't take your vest off before the end of May

"Clout" also meant a slap

but "Clouts" is a very old slang word for pants

When it was raining heavily it was said "it's not fit to turn a dog out"

This used to annoy me when I was sent off to school in the pouring rain with Mother saying "It's not fit to turn a dog out off you go  straight to school now"

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Re: Appropriate or inappropriate old sayings
« Reply #35 on: Friday 01 June 18 11:25 BST (UK) »
I was eight years old. Not very sporty, but I had been given an old lace-up leather football. I spent one wet and windy afternoon kicking it around the local park. There was not one puddle that had not been splashed. I arrived home, bouncing the ball in front of me.

In our entrance hall, I gave it an extra hard bounce and it rose up to the ceiling. I left a perfectly round mark and imprint of the laces. I stood there in horror.

My mother saw the mark and uttered the words that have stayed with me for over 50 years -

"I spent all morning, on my hands and knees, scrubbing that ceiling!"
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